A few weeks ago I was invited to participate in a collaborative effort, spearheaded by the folks at Cinema Fusion and Movie Patron, to produce a Top 100 films list on behalf of the online film community. I was sent a list of 500 nominees, and was asked to narrow it down to my personal Top 100, ranked in order.
I didn’t end up getting that far. Poring over the nominees list, I just became completely overwhelmed. It was easy enough to narrow the 500 down to 100 (frankly, there were quite a few films on the Top 500 that felt like placeholders–Pirates of the Caribbean? Grease? Seriously?), but I didn’t want to just submit a list of My Top 100 Most Favorite Bestests with Barry Lyndon at the top and the remaining 99 in random order. I decided I needed to come up with an organizing philosophy that would allow me to rank the films on a non-arbitrary scale, based on artistic, entertainment, and socio-historical value. But while I was agonizing over theoretical point values, everyone else was ranking their movies, and yesterday the final Top 100 list debuted on Cinema Fusion.
Considering that this venture was at least in part a reaction to AFI’s recently re-released Top 100 list, I think it’s useful to compare the two. Sean at Film Junk notes that he’s “a little disappointed that [the online] list wasn’t very radical or ‘progressive’.” This is a bit of an understatement; this new list is in fact so similar to the AFI list that if you compare just the two Top 20s side by side, seven films appear on both lists, with one film actually winning the same exact ranking from both groups. It begs the question: how did this self-styled “alternative list” come to so closely resemble the institutional verdict? Is this just an instance of consensus necessarily producing mediocrity, and if so, would there have been any way to get around that? Below the jump, you’ll find both Top 20s, and my analysis.
Like the AFI list, the online list is very male. But whereas AFI was criticized for excluding the work of female directors, the online list is not only 100 percent male in terms of the directors represented, it’s actually even lighter than AFI on what could be termed “women’s pictures” — ie: genre films primarily associated with female audiences, such as musicals, melodramas, and romantic comedies. Whereas AFI put Singin’ in the Rain in the top 5, the online critics slotted it in at #43. Most of the films on the online list that do fit into one of the aforementioned genres are films that could be said to appeal equally to both genders, such as Annie Hall or The Princess Bride. There’s not a single film by Douglas Sirk or George Cukor on the newer list; though mid-century foreign films such as 8 1/2 and The Bicycle Thief make the cut, European male directors like Michaelangelo Antonioni and Pedro Almodovar, who have placed the psychological concerns of women at the center of many of their films, do not.
The online Top 20 is extremely late-20th-century auteur-oriented. It’s dominated by Hollywood-based name brand directors, with many of the same guys (Steven Spielberg, Stanley Kubrick, Alfred Hitchcock) getting the majority of the love. In this respect, the online list is far more conservative than the AFI list, which reflects an institutional attempt at historical diversity–even if their milquetoast, sum-of-consensus diversity only extends as far as including a handful of silent films and a wide variety of studio system genres. AFI puts two silent classics in their Top 20; an extraterrestrial visitor looking at the online list would think that cinema started with Citizen Kane. And in some ways, that’s valid: the online list includes many contributions from fans/amateur critics, and a person’s awareness of/access to the first 40 years of cinema tends to increase in direct proportion to their access to traditional film education.
In other words: The AFI list is a work of educational activism; the online list is sheer populism. The AFI list is about the movies we *should* watch, like you *should* exercise and floss; the online list is about the movies people actually do watch, regardless of historical importance or intellectual nutritive content. You *should* watch Schindler’s List (#8 on AFI) but instead, you watch Jaws (#7 on online). Subject to no mandate beyond the tastes and habits of its compilers, this exercise reveals a dirty (but potentially fascinating) secret: even the most dedicated film lovers tend to watch the same movies over and over again, and those movies are the same movies that everyone else likes. In the final calculation, individual eccentricities are pushed to the margins, and phenomena that everyone can get behind (The Godfather, Star Wars) float to the top.
Is this good? Bad? I don’t know, probably both. But I do wonder if it would have made any difference if I had sent in my list, which surely would have been Spielberg-free and Lucas-free, and heavy on my own eccentricities: noir, melodrama, weird 70s musicals. Maybe at the very least, I could have helped push Blue Velvet out of the bottom 10.
The online list didn’t turn out nearly as bad as I feared when the premlinaries included films less that five months old such as Hot Fuzz. When I compiled my list, I wouldn’t even consider any film that wasn’t at least 10 years old. In the end, only 48 of the ones I voted for ended up in the final 100.
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I participated in the list and was disappointed by the final vote. I think the list may have in part reflected a younger group of writers who grew up with “Star Wars” as a defining film. I was also surprised that there were not many women film journalists who participated. Not too may films from my 100 made the cut.
In some ways would like to redo my list. When I picked and ordered my top 100 I was under the impression that more people wee going to be submitting a list that really highlighted what they felt was important to cinema. I decided to go the opposite way in order to balance it out. The more I think on it the more I should have been doing the opposite. There are a lot of good entertaining movies on the list but not enough foreign and not enough movies of cinematic importance or I guess more specifically the ones that are on are not rated high enough.
Oh well live and learn. I think the next time the community attempts to do something along these lines we should be more specific in what we are trying to achieve. It the list just created based on importance or entertainment or some other standard.
As someone who admittedly participated in choosing films for (and voting on) this list, let me just say that the title of your essay (”This Time with Twice the Star Wars!”) is the funniest and most succinct way to describe the end result I’ve heard yet.
I agree with the should watch/do watch dichotomy of the two lists, but your choice to represent that separation is a terrible one. And only more emphasis on the idea that the AFI has no idea what people SHOULD watch.
I mean, Schindler’s List, really? I don’t think anyone should watch that middling crap. Jaws is the far superior film.
Reuben, you and I actually agree. I cited the “Schindler’s List” vs “Jaws” example SPECIFICALLY to show how wrong-headed AFI’s concept of “nutritional” film really is. As I tried to say in the post, I think there is good and bad to offering a real-world alternative.
To be honest, I doubt that ANYONE — be it a crusty institution or not — could successfully produce a list of films that everybody would agree SHOULD be seen. I think a lot of the films on the Online list are crap, but that just makes it more fascinating to me as an anthropological document.
the whole point to lists should be to make a list of films that YOU (or YOU [plural]) think everybody should see, not that everybody thinks everybody should see. we all know what those films are, and they’re boring.
I’d tell you to read adrian martin’s “light my fire” from Senses of Cinema but it has BEEN REMOVED from the internet, and I am not pleased about that AT ALL.
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