Several film blogs have posted Jamie Stuart’s thoughts on yesterday’s NYFF press conference for Brian DePalma’s Redacted. In a nutshell: DePalma mentioned that the film’s final montage (which consists of real photographs of real victims of real terror and war-associated violence, and which is thought by many to be the most powerful portion of the film) is in danger of being “redacted” by the film’s distributor, Magnolia Pictures, at the request of the Magnolia/HD Net founder Mark Cuban. According to Stuart, DePalma’s comments were discredited yesterday by Magnolia’s president:
As [DePalma] began discussing the film’s use of actual war photographs and their graphic nature, Eamonn Bowles from Magnolia began shouting from the rear of the Walter Reade Theater to refute De Palma’s claims that Mark Cuban was trying to, well, redact them from the picture’s release. Then, just as the press conference was coming to a close, producer Jason Kliot rushed the stage and grabbed moderator Jim Hoberman’s mic to offer the crowd his version of this distribution controversy. I was left wondering how spontaneous this all was or whether they knew it would be immediately blogged upon to stoke media attention.
I was less inclined to see this as a pure stunt. I knew DePalma had been pushing this button at press conferences as far back as Telluride, where his statements were vague enough to be misinterpreted but loud enough to be difficult to miss. If this fighting between filmmaker and distributer started as a ploy for attention, then it doesn’t make sense that Magnolia would wait this long to publicly respond. Still, unsure how to interpret this latest event, I sent an email this morning to Mark Cuban to get the official word. Cuban confirmed to me that Magnolia has, indeed, asked DePalma to remove the images from the film, and will not release Redacted unless the final montage is cut. More details after the jump.
“The film is going to be ‘redacted’ before we release it. He is using images that have not been cleared. We can not use images that have not been cleared. No movie can,” Cuban writes, noting that Magnolia has offered DePalma the opportunity to buy the film back and release it on his own dime. “At that point if its a matter of principle to him, he can absorb 100 percent of the risk and release the film as he sees fit. If he chooses not to, then we will release the movie without the images.”
Cuban characterizes this business decision, at least in part, as a moral issue. In other words, don’t expect the montage to resurface as a DVD extra on his watch. “There is no way I am going to include images of people who have been severely wounded or maimed and killed when the possibility exists that their families could unknowingly see the images and recognize a loved one,” Cuban writes. “In this day and age, those pictures will be stripped out of the DVD release and unquestionably be posted on the internet exponentially increasing the likelihood it could happen. I wouldn’t do that to anyone.”
How will this shake out? As of this writing, Redacted is still being promoted front and center on Magnolia’s website. DePalma is still scheduled to do a press day in New York tomorrow, which is being promoted by Magnolia’s publicists. The film is still scheduled to be released in New York and Los Angeles on November 16. My guess is that if DePalma had a serious intention to release Redacted outside of the auspices of Magnolia, he would have already unplugged himself from their distribution and publicity machine. My guess is that DePalma (who told the crowd at Telluride that he made the film for HD Net/Magnolia on the promise that he’d be given $2 million to do whatever he wanted) is resigned to making the cuts, but as a point of pride and principle, has decided not to do it quietly.
In any case, with Cuban’s stated motivations as a guide, the redacting should spare the film’s final (and most gut-wrenching) shot, which blends seamlessly with the journalistic images but, as DePalma recently told Anthony Kaufman, was staged. “When you shoot the crucifixion of Christ, how do you represent it?” DePalma said. “You don’t have the real Jesus, so you have to do artistic rendition.”
It didn’t strike me as a stunt, and I was especially interested in Kliot’s remarks about Fair Use. I just uploaded video of the conference.
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During an unannounced Q&A following a public screening of Redacted at the Toronto film festival, one of the producers of the film, standing on stage beside De Palma, blurted out that at least one of those photographs was completely faked up. De Palma shot her a look and she shut up. I’ve got it all on tape. Maybe that’s why Cuban has a problem. He doesn’t want to look like a fool.
DePalma admits that the final photo was staged, in the interview with Anthony Kaufman that I linked to above.
I just listened to the tape. In response to an inaudible question from the audinece about the authenticity of the photographs, she says “we didn’t take them, so we can’t confirm that, but the photographers who did take them, we were fortunate to meet them and they gave us those photographs, specifically. They were photojournalists in Baghdad and they were political refugees in Jordan at the time they were shooting. Our understanding is that they were, but..” — questioner then yells something inaudible back. “Okay, yes there are two photographs in the montage that are constructed by the production –” — the moderator cuts her off and starts talking about the parallels between Iraq and Vietnam.
Okay, so that’s two — what’s the other fake one? And political refugees from Jordan handed them these? I’m not questioning De Palma’s right to create staged art or his veracity as a filmmaker, I’m suggesting that Cuban is a smart and media saavy guy and I’m sure the conversations behind closed-doors are more along the lines of ‘will this blow up in our faces?’ as opposed to ‘will this upset people?’
I’m confused. Are you saying that staging photographs is more of a scandal than using real photographs of real dead bodies? Are you saying that you think they’re all staged, and Cuban doesn’t want the montage to be released because of that? I agree that it’s not about something as pedestrian as “upsetting” people, but I would think that if they were all staged, that would be legally sound, less upsetting, and thus fundamentally there would be no issue.
I don’t think there’s an issue of legal soundness, I think Cuban knows that any movie on the Iraq war is fair game for public debate, and he could very well end up on Fox News, with the blowhard anchor going .. “but isn’t it true, sir, that some of these photos are…FAKE!” And Cuban would have to defend De Palma’s high-art techniques. He’s made a movie about soldier misconduct during the Iraq war and he’s staged at least a couple of photographs for a slideshow-type presentation at the end that screams ‘non-fiction’ to the audience. That’s very hard to explain to Johnny Appleseed out there. If all the photos were real and verifiable, I think it would be less of a gamble for Cuban, because he could say ‘look, it is what it is.’ Confusion allayed?
You could be right. But I think, if I were Mark Cuban, that those 30 seconds on Fox News would be of little concern to me, because I would know that all press is good press, and I would have proved that I know that by competing on Dancing with the Stars.
I think that the VOD date is weeks earlier. Like maybe 11/2. Then it opens theatrically two weeks later.
Total bunk.
Ryan, Cuban’s contact with FOX (and O’Reilly, no less) over Redacted has already begun. Check out this post on his blog, which I found via Anne Thompson:
http://www.blogmaverick.com/2007/09/04/me-and-bill-oreilly/
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+REDACTED SHOULD NOT EVER BE SHOWN IN A THEATER IN THE USA.OUR TROOPS DESERVE MORE RESPECT AND SUPPORT THEN THIS.IT BELONGS IN THE TRASH. HOPEFULLY THAT IS WHERE IS ENDS UP