Comments on: Two Final Thoughts on Sex and the City http://blog.spout.com/2008/06/02/two-final-thoughts-on-sex-and-the-city/ Daily coverage of what is truly interesting in the film world Tue, 10 Nov 2009 09:29:59 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Shelf Talk http://blog.spout.com/2008/06/02/two-final-thoughts-on-sex-and-the-city/#comment-102792 Shelf Talk Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:13:03 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3039#comment-102792 I think it is useful to reflect that the whole SatC phenom was an offshoot of its literary forebear, 'Chick Lit,' about which similar concerns and questions were voiced, although perhaps not so dire, since books are a bigger tent and tend to support a lot more diversity of views and tones than Hollywood moviemaking. So, for every SatC, there are scores of books ranging from pure fluff to intelligent social satire, all being jacketed and marketed as 'chick lit.' I think it is useful to reflect that the whole SatC phenom was an offshoot of its literary forebear, ‘Chick Lit,’ about which similar concerns and questions were voiced, although perhaps not so dire, since books are a bigger tent and tend to support a lot more diversity of views and tones than Hollywood moviemaking. So, for every SatC, there are scores of books ranging from pure fluff to intelligent social satire, all being jacketed and marketed as ‘chick lit.’

]]> By: jmac http://blog.spout.com/2008/06/02/two-final-thoughts-on-sex-and-the-city/#comment-102779 jmac Tue, 03 Jun 2008 14:54:52 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3039#comment-102779 Hi Karina, I really appreciate that you have questioned and explored the culture of SATC. I realize the you are a bit over it right now, but I really feel compelled to add a few thoughts. :) I am a big fan of the series, and I saw the film on Sunday. SATC is like a book that I never want to end! In some ways the issues that are beautifully addressed in the series helped me NAVIGATE the world in NY as it is. SATC is for me! I'm here to represent! :) That's why as a blogger, I'm a little pissed off! I found the extremely negative film reviews from my fellow writers to be a reflection of (as one beautifully written piece described) a society that limits women in a myriad of ways and pretends not to! I'm not sure that these film critics realize that fashion is art or that frequently women can fetishize beautiful clothing and that the attention we give our appearance can approach ritual (i.e. the French women do it too! :) But the condescending nature of these reviews pretends that there is no currency in feminine beauty, that the questioning of our roles in a new society we are carving out for ourselves has no relevancy, that there is no pain in realizing that the romantic fairy tale many of us were "programmed" with is an illusion, and that we question that illusion often with no real answers . . . Furthermore, I really find it hypocritical that film critics who fuel the Hollywood machine, which is nothing but excess, are criticizing this film for being shallow, inconsequential, materialistic, etc. If they want non-commercial, profound cinema, where women are real participants, then there is always the avant-garde! :) But apparently, that's not what they want either . . . SATC is not a perfect film in any regard. If anything, the screenplay needed to be developed more. I'm just sorry that the cinematic world I participate in cannot accept a feminine film as it is. This is the film that made it out into the theaters, and women are supporting it. This is an enormous accomplishment, and something that deserves more than insults and petty name-calling. (FYI, I really do not want to hear ever again that as a blogger I am not qualified to write about cinema! :) Thanks for your patience with all my girly and angry emotion. :) And thank you so much for your writing and for this forum! xo Hi Karina,

I really appreciate that you have questioned and explored the culture of SATC. I realize the you are a bit over it right now, but I really feel compelled to add a few thoughts. :)

I am a big fan of the series, and I saw the film on Sunday. SATC is like a book that I never want to end! In some ways the issues that are beautifully addressed in the series helped me NAVIGATE the world in NY as it is. SATC is for me! I’m here to represent! :)

That’s why as a blogger, I’m a little pissed off! I found the extremely negative film reviews from my fellow writers to be a reflection of (as one beautifully written piece described) a society that limits women in a myriad of ways and pretends not to!

I’m not sure that these film critics realize that fashion is art or that frequently women can fetishize beautiful clothing and that the attention we give our appearance can approach ritual (i.e. the French women do it too! :) But the condescending nature of these reviews pretends that there is no currency in feminine beauty, that the questioning of our roles in a new society we are carving out for ourselves has no relevancy, that there is no pain in realizing that the romantic fairy tale many of us were “programmed” with is an illusion, and that we question that illusion often with no real answers . . .

Furthermore, I really find it hypocritical that film critics who fuel the Hollywood machine, which is nothing but excess, are criticizing this film for being shallow, inconsequential, materialistic, etc. If they want non-commercial, profound cinema, where women are real participants, then there is always the avant-garde! :) But apparently, that’s not what they want either . . .

SATC is not a perfect film in any regard. If anything, the screenplay needed to be developed more. I’m just sorry that the cinematic world I participate in cannot accept a feminine film as it is. This is the film that made it out into the theaters, and women are supporting it. This is an enormous accomplishment, and something that deserves more than insults and petty name-calling. (FYI, I really do not want to hear ever again that as a blogger I am not qualified to write about cinema! :)

Thanks for your patience with all my girly and angry emotion. :) And thank you so much for your writing and for this forum!

xo

]]> By: Erin Donovan http://blog.spout.com/2008/06/02/two-final-thoughts-on-sex-and-the-city/#comment-102596 Erin Donovan Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:39:52 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3039#comment-102596 Whoa, that commenter has some rage. I like the SATC show and movie but I sort of loved how uninterested you were in it. Then again, Spout blog makes up a very large percentage of my media news intake so it probably seems like a disproportionate dissent. When I saw the numbers the film was doing my first thought was "Sopranos movie is a go!" I wonder what the equivalent over the top marketing campaign would look like for that. Whoa, that commenter has some rage.

I like the SATC show and movie but I sort of loved how uninterested you were in it. Then again, Spout blog makes up a very large percentage of my media news intake so it probably seems like a disproportionate dissent.

When I saw the numbers the film was doing my first thought was “Sopranos movie is a go!” I wonder what the equivalent over the top marketing campaign would look like for that.

]]> By: M. Agrebi http://blog.spout.com/2008/06/02/two-final-thoughts-on-sex-and-the-city/#comment-102593 M. Agrebi Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:28:27 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3039#comment-102593 Apparently I'm Miranda... according to a test I couldn't stop myself from taking. And yes, I am a male... and yes it is hard to be male and like SATC. Apparently I’m Miranda… according to a test I couldn’t stop myself from taking. And yes, I am a male… and yes it is hard to be male and like SATC.

]]> By: Christopher Campbell http://blog.spout.com/2008/06/02/two-final-thoughts-on-sex-and-the-city/#comment-102574 Christopher Campbell Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:38:33 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3039#comment-102574 Glenn, I think there are enough men out here that don't care about sports that it isn't too tough. It's not even tough for us to be fans of Project Runway, Bette Midler and shoe collecting these days. I think the only thing that is tough is being a man who likes Sex and the City. Not that that's what I am or anything. Glenn, I think there are enough men out here that don’t care about sports that it isn’t too tough. It’s not even tough for us to be fans of Project Runway, Bette Midler and shoe collecting these days. I think the only thing that is tough is being a man who likes Sex and the City. Not that that’s what I am or anything.

]]> By: Glenn Kenny http://blog.spout.com/2008/06/02/two-final-thoughts-on-sex-and-the-city/#comment-102563 Glenn Kenny Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:38:31 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3039#comment-102563 Well, if you think it's a hassle having everyone expect you're gonna relate to "Sex and the City" just on account of your being a woman...imagine being a guy and not liking SPORTS. Man, that is tough. It got so bad that eventually I had to start, well, liking sports. At least a couple of them. Well, if you think it’s a hassle having everyone expect you’re gonna relate to “Sex and the City” just on account of your being a woman…imagine being a guy and not liking SPORTS. Man, that is tough. It got so bad that eventually I had to start, well, liking sports. At least a couple of them.

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