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	<title>Comments on: He&#8217;s Lost Control: Sympathy For the Devil and Godard in 68</title>
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		<title>By: Thai Bites</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thai Bites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>one + one = suck</description>
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		<title>By: unfinished session &#171; songs about buildings and food</title>
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		<dc:creator>unfinished session &#171; songs about buildings and food</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 05:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] true (i touched on something similar to this re: commando in dear heidi, part 5)  and then in sympathy for the devil there are those amazing parts with the stones jamming and they&#8217;re just so interesting and so [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] true (i touched on something similar to this re: commando in dear heidi, part 5)  and then in sympathy for the devil there are those amazing parts with the stones jamming and they&#8217;re just so interesting and so [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MontanaJones</title>
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		<dc:creator>MontanaJones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its been close to 30+ years since I originally saw this as a drugged out 13 year old at one of the weekend midnight rock rock n roll movie specials.  I had been acustomed to doing LSD, peyote, psilocybian mushrooms or whatever else I could get my hands on and take in whatever rock movie was featured that night.  Well seeing Led Zeppelin doing their silly fantasy routines while flipping out was one thing, this film was another story all together. I'm not even sure what all I remember, just being alternately horrified, shocked and who knows what else.  Well I just got the DVD and ready for a blast from the past, should be interesting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its been close to 30+ years since I originally saw this as a drugged out 13 year old at one of the weekend midnight rock rock n roll movie specials.  I had been acustomed to doing LSD, peyote, psilocybian mushrooms or whatever else I could get my hands on and take in whatever rock movie was featured that night.  Well seeing Led Zeppelin doing their silly fantasy routines while flipping out was one thing, this film was another story all together. I&#8217;m not even sure what all I remember, just being alternately horrified, shocked and who knows what else.  Well I just got the DVD and ready for a blast from the past, should be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job taking this interesting film seriously rather than just writing it off as "difficult." So many people misunderstand Godard and are happy to just regurgitate the received "wisdom" about his revolutionary years and the films he made after 1968. I mean, the man's been steadily making films and video works for almost 50 years now, and to limit the discussion of his work to 6 or 7 years at the very beginning of his career is kind of absurd.

It's worth pointing out that the two different titles for this film do have some relevance. &lt;i&gt;One + One&lt;/i&gt; is the perfect expression of the film's rhetorical strategy, which essentially adds together two forms of fake revolution to see what comes out. Just as the Rolling Stones attempted to express the spirit of the 60s through pop music, Godard attempts to capture a revolutionary vibe through his Brechtian theatre tableaux, complete with blatantly artificial props and sets. And the films ends with the Stones song still in formation, because the revolution indicated by the Black Panters and the dialogues with Wiazemsky never comes to fruition either. It's a film that's designed around incompleteness, around multiple approaches to the culture's problems, with no particular solution located or advocated by the film. It's a polemic without a central point, a collection of polemics really, most of which aren't necessarily what Godard even believed at the time. That's why the decision of the producers to rename the film while playing the finished version of "Sympathy for the Devil" at the end was such a betrayal of the film's intent and purpose. And it pissed Godard off so much that he punched the producer at the premiere, then stormed out while his own cut was projected on the outside wall of the theater.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job taking this interesting film seriously rather than just writing it off as &#8220;difficult.&#8221; So many people misunderstand Godard and are happy to just regurgitate the received &#8220;wisdom&#8221; about his revolutionary years and the films he made after 1968. I mean, the man&#8217;s been steadily making films and video works for almost 50 years now, and to limit the discussion of his work to 6 or 7 years at the very beginning of his career is kind of absurd.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth pointing out that the two different titles for this film do have some relevance. <i>One + One</i> is the perfect expression of the film&#8217;s rhetorical strategy, which essentially adds together two forms of fake revolution to see what comes out. Just as the Rolling Stones attempted to express the spirit of the 60s through pop music, Godard attempts to capture a revolutionary vibe through his Brechtian theatre tableaux, complete with blatantly artificial props and sets. And the films ends with the Stones song still in formation, because the revolution indicated by the Black Panters and the dialogues with Wiazemsky never comes to fruition either. It&#8217;s a film that&#8217;s designed around incompleteness, around multiple approaches to the culture&#8217;s problems, with no particular solution located or advocated by the film. It&#8217;s a polemic without a central point, a collection of polemics really, most of which aren&#8217;t necessarily what Godard even believed at the time. That&#8217;s why the decision of the producers to rename the film while playing the finished version of &#8220;Sympathy for the Devil&#8221; at the end was such a betrayal of the film&#8217;s intent and purpose. And it pissed Godard off so much that he punched the producer at the premiere, then stormed out while his own cut was projected on the outside wall of the theater.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Though only partially relevant to this post, I want to call attention to the brilliant interview with Keith Richards in the April issue of GQ. 

Here is what Richards says of Godard's film: 

"Like working with a French bank clerk [laughs] I mean, he was out of his depth in England. Just like William the Conqueror! He might've taken the place over, but he was out of his depth. I mean, I knew Godard's movies from before, and I was like, "Oh, Jean-Luc Godard!" And I realized he must have hit a middle-aged crisis or... What he was trying to make of England, in England, was, uh... did you ever get the drift of that movie? It's like some Marxist students got ahold of him. And this is a guy who's made incredible movies. And you wonder, you know, where the stupidity creeps in. He should have stayed with French novels."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though only partially relevant to this post, I want to call attention to the brilliant interview with Keith Richards in the April issue of GQ. </p>
<p>Here is what Richards says of Godard&#8217;s film: </p>
<p>&#8220;Like working with a French bank clerk [laughs] I mean, he was out of his depth in England. Just like William the Conqueror! He might&#8217;ve taken the place over, but he was out of his depth. I mean, I knew Godard&#8217;s movies from before, and I was like, &#8220;Oh, Jean-Luc Godard!&#8221; And I realized he must have hit a middle-aged crisis or&#8230; What he was trying to make of England, in England, was, uh&#8230; did you ever get the drift of that movie? It&#8217;s like some Marxist students got ahold of him. And this is a guy who&#8217;s made incredible movies. And you wonder, you know, where the stupidity creeps in. He should have stayed with French novels.&#8221;</p>
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