Comments on: Producer Turns ‘Critic’ on Goldstein’s Blog http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/01/producer-turns-critic-on-goldsteins-blog/ Daily coverage of what is truly interesting in the film world Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:37:43 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Glenn Kenny http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/01/producer-turns-critic-on-goldsteins-blog/#comment-107681 Glenn Kenny Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:50:44 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3252#comment-107681 Yeah, Karina! Turn that frown upside down, and go do something...vague. That involves positive growth. That's the ticket! Yeah, Karina! Turn that frown upside down, and go do something…vague. That involves positive growth. That’s the ticket!

]]> By: JohnT http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/01/producer-turns-critic-on-goldsteins-blog/#comment-107678 JohnT Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:37:30 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3252#comment-107678 Oh, everyone grow up, especially you, Katrina! Instead of worrying about schmucks like Patrick Goldstein, who can't figure out what to write about, or Avi Lerner, who is, after all, just a big kid in a sandbox full of money (movies? shmatas? merchandising? what? Like he's the first producer to give a shit about art?), why don't you focus on your own ideas and constructive opinions that might illuminate people, move the medium forward, and support the positive growth of the media instead of engaging in pointless nyah-nyah-ing. Oh, everyone grow up, especially you, Katrina! Instead of worrying about schmucks like Patrick Goldstein, who can’t figure out what to write about, or Avi Lerner, who is, after all, just a big kid in a sandbox full of money (movies? shmatas? merchandising? what? Like he’s the first producer to give a shit about art?), why don’t you focus on your own ideas and constructive opinions that might illuminate people, move the medium forward, and support the positive growth of the media instead of engaging in pointless nyah-nyah-ing.

]]> By: David Poland http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/01/producer-turns-critic-on-goldsteins-blog/#comment-107651 David Poland Thu, 03 Jul 2008 04:49:17 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3252#comment-107651 Two phenomena... first, blogs do tend to expose people for who they really are, like it or not. Between the game of pretending he isn't BFF's with John Horn and this Avi "If His Name Is On It, You Know It's Shit" Lerner, a decent guy amongst hack producers, but a hack to the end, we know way too much about Patrick's game. Second, Patrick is falling into "young blogger" pitfalls. As everyone who has done it seriously knows, it takes a while to find a voice. Patrick may not be able to get over his prejudices and cushy columnist life o’ lunch. Or he may. I say, let’s give it a month. In the meanwhile, don’t sweat too much. I suspect he is as well read as Mr. Bart so far. Two phenomena… first, blogs do tend to expose people for who they really are, like it or not. Between the game of pretending he isn’t BFF’s with John Horn and this Avi “If His Name Is On It, You Know It’s Shit” Lerner, a decent guy amongst hack producers, but a hack to the end, we know way too much about Patrick’s game.

Second, Patrick is falling into “young blogger” pitfalls. As everyone who has done it seriously knows, it takes a while to find a voice. Patrick may not be able to get over his prejudices and cushy columnist life o’ lunch. Or he may. I say, let’s give it a month. In the meanwhile, don’t sweat too much. I suspect he is as well read as Mr. Bart so far.

]]> By: Glenn Kenny http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/01/producer-turns-critic-on-goldsteins-blog/#comment-107645 Glenn Kenny Thu, 03 Jul 2008 01:03:48 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3252#comment-107645 One wonders how to summarize one's feelings about Patrick Goldstein with words that aren't so troublingly five-dollar-ish as those of his erstwhile colleague Dargis. Compounds such as "pus-oozing" and "anal-wart-ridden" spring to mind; they are fierce, direct, easily apprehendable; but, perhaps, not entirely factually supportable. So we move on to "grotesquely banal" and "intellectually bankrupt," but immediately you see the problem—we are entering the realm of the dreaded five-dollar word! Damn you, Goldstein, and the too-clever traps you set!!! One wonders how to summarize one’s feelings about Patrick Goldstein with words that aren’t so troublingly five-dollar-ish as those of his erstwhile colleague Dargis. Compounds such as “pus-oozing” and “anal-wart-ridden” spring to mind; they are fierce, direct, easily apprehendable; but, perhaps, not entirely factually supportable. So we move on to “grotesquely banal” and “intellectually bankrupt,” but immediately you see the problem—we are entering the realm of the dreaded five-dollar word! Damn you, Goldstein, and the too-clever traps you set!!!

]]> By: badMike http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/01/producer-turns-critic-on-goldsteins-blog/#comment-107571 badMike Tue, 01 Jul 2008 23:58:03 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3252#comment-107571 I haven't seen Goldstein's blog before your link today, but I read the post you linked to and skimmed some others. His general attitude seems to be exactly what most of the rest of the news media is like these days: extolling the virtues of what "the common folk" enjoy, while at the same time spending most of his writing efforts name-dropping about who he had lunch or breakfast with just so that we know how connected he is. Whether it's politics or entertainment (or both), this attitude really gotten SO tiring lately. I haven’t seen Goldstein’s blog before your link today, but I read the post you linked to and skimmed some others. His general attitude seems to be exactly what most of the rest of the news media is like these days: extolling the virtues of what “the common folk” enjoy, while at the same time spending most of his writing efforts name-dropping about who he had lunch or breakfast with just so that we know how connected he is.

Whether it’s politics or entertainment (or both), this attitude really gotten SO tiring lately.

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