Comments on: AfroPunk: I’m Through With White Girls http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/ Daily coverage of what is truly interesting in the film world Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:41:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Niles F. Hathor http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-136715 Niles F. Hathor Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:20:37 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-136715 I don't see why people keep mentioning the title. Obviously the title is meant in jest. furthermore, to me its more magnetizing--not deterring. if the title was the inverted variant ("I'm through with black girls) I still would be interested in seeing it. the movie's whole point is to draw out a dialogue about "whiteness" and "blackness" and why anyone gives a crap. those describe races of human beings, not their true being. human beings really need to grow up...wise up. enlarge your hearts. I don’t see why people keep mentioning the title. Obviously the title is meant in jest. furthermore, to me its more magnetizing–not deterring.

if the title was the inverted variant (”I’m through with black girls) I still would be interested in seeing it.

the movie’s whole point is to draw out a dialogue about “whiteness” and “blackness” and why anyone gives a crap. those describe races of human beings, not their true being.

human beings really need to grow up…wise up.
enlarge your hearts.

]]> By: David Wilson http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-135849 David Wilson Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:47:49 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-135849 I absolutely love this movie. I can watch it over and over again. I certaintly can relate to the lead character in the move. I would recommend this to my family and friends. I absolutely love this movie. I can watch it over and over again. I certaintly can relate to the lead character in the move. I would recommend this to my family and friends.

]]> By: respect http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-130918 respect Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:46:25 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-130918 I love the movie. I watched it about two weeks ago and loved it so much, I watched it again. I'm sure there are several factions of Americans who would be offended, but the musings of Jay are reality. I wasn't going to watch because of the title; thought it'd be a trite renditon of racial politics in millenium America. Instead, there is an honest treatment of the intersections of race, class, and culture alongside some straight hilarious moments. Beyond the Jay-Catherine relationship, the movie portrays other elements of the black middle class with just the amount of drama necessary to bring home the point. There is the old Black middle class (the family of the woman who was getting married), the new Black middle class (the family of the man getting married), the black-conscious Black middle class (Jay's black best friend), and finally the black geek stuck in between two worlds (Jay). If this movie does not highlight the dilemmas found in DuBois's "double-consciousness", a state of mind many, if not most, black folks are in, I do not know what can or will. In the end, Jay just wants someone who can understand why he as a black man has to be preoccupied with race (depicted in the movie with the offense he takes with being called another famous black person) yet why he as a black man navigating a non-black society ultimately has a broader perspective of the world than that simply attached to his race (depicted with the relationship he formulates with his white best friend). I could talk of the many other instances when this movie provides us a more complex version of racial politics than is currently heralded in the media, but I will end by saying that we need more films like this. Keep producing Jennifer Sharp! I love the movie. I watched it about two weeks ago and loved it so much, I watched it again. I’m sure there are several factions of Americans who would be offended, but the musings of Jay are reality. I wasn’t going to watch because of the title; thought it’d be a trite renditon of racial politics in millenium America. Instead, there is an honest treatment of the intersections of race, class, and culture alongside some straight hilarious moments. Beyond the Jay-Catherine relationship, the movie portrays other elements of the black middle class with just the amount of drama necessary to bring home the point. There is the old Black middle class (the family of the woman who was getting married), the new Black middle class (the family of the man getting married), the black-conscious Black middle class (Jay’s black best friend), and finally the black geek stuck in between two worlds (Jay). If this movie does not highlight the dilemmas found in DuBois’s “double-consciousness”, a state of mind many, if not most, black folks are in, I do not know what can or will. In the end, Jay just wants someone who can understand why he as a black man has to be preoccupied with race (depicted in the movie with the offense he takes with being called another famous black person) yet why he as a black man navigating a non-black society ultimately has a broader perspective of the world than that simply attached to his race (depicted with the relationship he formulates with his white best friend). I could talk of the many other instances when this movie provides us a more complex version of racial politics than is currently heralded in the media, but I will end by saying that we need more films like this. Keep producing Jennifer Sharp!

]]> By: anonymous superstar http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-128491 anonymous superstar Sun, 07 Jun 2009 07:47:25 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-128491 At first i was not going to watch this movie the title turned me off, anytime you have a title like that the characters usually are going to spend some time on racial politics or situations dealing with race like"White Men Can't Jump". But i did glance at a few scenes mostly because it starred the guy from Star Trek Enterprise. the movie was not as bad as i thought it would be not having seen the movie from the beginning i am not sure of the amount of white girls the star had dated except one woman that confronted him on the street layer in the movie. the character seems to have settled on a woman that was just the right combination of black and white for him although i seriously doubt the girl would go out with another black guy so soon after breaking up with another, the character did not seem like the dating black guys type. as for the title since the movie has no A,B or C list stars the title is the only way to attract attention. At first i was not going to watch this movie the title turned me off, anytime you have a title like that the characters usually are going to spend some time on racial politics or situations dealing with race like”White Men Can’t Jump”. But i did glance at a few scenes mostly because it starred the guy from Star Trek Enterprise. the movie was not as bad as i thought it would be not having seen the movie from the beginning i am not sure of the amount of white girls the star had dated except one woman that confronted him on the street layer in the movie. the character seems to have settled on a woman that was just the right combination of black and white for him although i seriously doubt the girl would go out with another black guy so soon after breaking up with another, the character did not seem like the dating black guys type. as for the title since the movie has no A,B or C list stars the title is the only way to attract attention.

]]> By: Chris http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-124218 Chris Wed, 01 Apr 2009 05:43:47 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-124218 Your blog is pretentious trite. It begs the question, why so serious? Your blog is pretentious trite.

It begs the question, why so serious?

]]> By: mike http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-120053 mike Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:03:35 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-120053 Wanted to first help validate Linda H's claims... I'm actually from the Valley (SFV) and I'm, too, biracial. Although to Whites from the Valley I sound like Snoop Dogg, to most PEOPLE (in general) throughout the remainder of the country, I've been told I sound like a "valley dude" (or by Blacks in the South - I just sound like a "White boy"). I believe it has as much to do with my complexion (and their overbearing perception that people from So. Cal. especially people with lighter hued skin - if "hued" is a word - must think we're White or want to be White) as it does my articulation (or as Easterners say - my over annunciation) of the English language. We, in the west, and especially in Cali, are very phonetic people. And the “dudes”, “likes”, and “you knows” don’t help our cause. I'll sort of contrast the perception you may have of me based on that first paragraph by saying this... I just saw this movie for the first time last night and I missed the very beginning so I'm not sure exactly why he stopped dating white women but, in the 12th grade (1992) I made a conscious decision to stop dating White women myself. It was the height of Public Enemy and the rebirth of Malcolm X and I thought it was my social responsibility to "hold high the Black woman." While I think my effort was noble and in certain situations necessary, it was based on a fallacious premise. The premise was that "Black woman gave a damn whom I dated." LOL -- I was an arrogant bastard thinking I had power to make Black women feel good about themselves (or even like they needed me to). While watching the movie some of those thoughts came back but what I found was that the character played by Lia Johnson was the woman I was actually looking for the whole time. A Black woman who I could relate to (on most levels - culturally) who had experiences within many subcultures, spoke grammatically correct English, did not relish in "Hood-rattidness", seemed pretty happy (not the "angry black woman"), and could actually (not just hold a conversation) but brought to the table a wealth of character that made the leading man a better guy! My official stance: I have a crush on Catherine Williamson. Thanks Courtney, you've put yet another unattainable woman there in the space of Mike's mind! : ) The movie gets an A+ for me and it just took the place of another low budget flick (created by my Frat Brother) "Sprung" as my new favorite Black love story! Wanted to first help validate Linda H’s claims… I’m actually from the Valley (SFV) and I’m, too, biracial. Although to Whites from the Valley I sound like Snoop Dogg, to most PEOPLE (in general) throughout the remainder of the country, I’ve been told I sound like a “valley dude” (or by Blacks in the South - I just sound like a “White boy”). I believe it has as much to do with my complexion (and their overbearing perception that people from So. Cal. especially people with lighter hued skin - if “hued” is a word - must think we’re White or want to be White) as it does my articulation (or as Easterners say - my over annunciation) of the English language. We, in the west, and especially in Cali, are very phonetic people. And the “dudes”, “likes”, and “you knows” don’t help our cause.

I’ll sort of contrast the perception you may have of me based on that first paragraph by saying this… I just saw this movie for the first time last night and I missed the very beginning so I’m not sure exactly why he stopped dating white women but, in the 12th grade (1992) I made a conscious decision to stop dating White women myself. It was the height of Public Enemy and the rebirth of Malcolm X and I thought it was my social responsibility to “hold high the Black woman.”

While I think my effort was noble and in certain situations necessary, it was based on a fallacious premise. The premise was that “Black woman gave a damn whom I dated.” LOL — I was an arrogant bastard thinking I had power to make Black women feel good about themselves (or even like they needed me to).

While watching the movie some of those thoughts came back but what I found was that the character played by Lia Johnson was the woman I was actually looking for the whole time. A Black woman who I could relate to (on most levels - culturally) who had experiences within many subcultures, spoke grammatically correct English, did not relish in “Hood-rattidness”, seemed pretty happy (not the “angry black woman”), and could actually (not just hold a conversation) but brought to the table a wealth of character that made the leading man a better guy!

My official stance: I have a crush on Catherine Williamson. Thanks Courtney, you’ve put yet another unattainable woman there in the space of Mike’s mind! : ) The movie gets an A+ for me and it just took the place of another low budget flick (created by my Frat Brother) “Sprung” as my new favorite Black love story!

]]> By: Linda Hucherson http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-119942 Linda Hucherson Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:18:50 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-119942 I just watched this movie a short while ago on cable tv- six months after the blog and accompanying comments were made. All I want to say is that your perspective on the movie obviously depends on who you are- black, white, male, female etc. As for me, I thorooughly enjoyed the movie and identified (although I am a much older female- fifty-something year old) with the role Lia Johnson, the lead female played. Being biracial, with a white mother and black father, I laughed outloud because I, too, have experienced that observation from blacks who have said I talked "white" (or "Valley Girl"). I guess biraciality comes out in strange and often funny ways sometimes... I just watched this movie a short while ago on cable tv- six months after the blog and accompanying comments were made.

All I want to say is that your perspective on the movie obviously depends on who you are- black, white, male, female etc. As for me, I thorooughly enjoyed the movie and identified (although I am a much older female- fifty-something year old) with the role Lia Johnson, the lead female played.

Being biracial, with a white mother and black father, I laughed outloud because I, too, have experienced that observation from blacks who have said I talked “white” (or “Valley Girl”). I guess biraciality comes out in strange and often funny ways sometimes…

]]> By: Reagan http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-119092 Reagan Sat, 03 Jan 2009 06:08:04 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-119092 It would be very different if the title was (Iam done with black girls) simply because that statement is true. Saying "Iam done with white girls" is pretty much laughable white girls probably seen the title and laughed and said yeah right. In movie is some what of a mockery like the white women he was with was not cast to be sexy,fun or wanted so man (even though it's a movie) would say man If those are the white girls you're getting then I would turn to sistas too. I don't know about other black girls but me personally we don't actually need a movie saying (Iam done with black girls) we can just get up in the morning and live our daily lives.I heard a man say black girls don't appreciate a black man I wonder did that statement come first or the unappreciation It would be very different if the title was (Iam done with black girls) simply because that statement is true. Saying “Iam done with white girls” is pretty much laughable white girls probably seen the title and laughed and said yeah right. In movie is some what of a mockery like the white women he was with was not cast to be sexy,fun or wanted so man (even though it’s a movie) would say man If those are the white girls you’re getting then I would turn to sistas too. I don’t know about other black girls but me personally we don’t actually need a movie saying (Iam done with black girls) we can just get up in the morning and live our daily lives.I heard a man say black girls don’t appreciate a black man I wonder did that statement come first or the unappreciation

]]> By: Ibrahim http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-118467 Ibrahim Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:18:52 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-118467 It's funny, I never seen a film and felt immediately compelled to write a blog about it. I happen to be a fan of the low budget variety movies and I thought this movie was hilarious. I actually cared about the stories and felt I related more to the lead character in Jay than most other leading male roles. Being the geek that I am, you do fall prey to the intra-stereotyping in dating circles. I remember in High School, where people would make the distinction of who as black and who wasn't, in Seattle, Washington. Yes, Seattle, Washington. lol Anyway, loved your thoughts on the film, would've loved to have been at this screening. It’s funny, I never seen a film and felt immediately compelled to write a blog about it. I happen to be a fan of the low budget variety movies and I thought this movie was hilarious. I actually cared about the stories and felt I related more to the lead character in Jay than most other leading male roles. Being the geek that I am, you do fall prey to the intra-stereotyping in dating circles. I remember in High School, where people would make the distinction of who as black and who wasn’t, in Seattle, Washington. Yes, Seattle, Washington. lol Anyway, loved your thoughts on the film, would’ve loved to have been at this screening.

]]> By: brookelle http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-115523 brookelle Thu, 16 Oct 2008 19:53:06 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-115523 hey um... whats this about just wondering if you can help me on that.. cause that be so cool if any one let me kno what this is ^^ so yea tuddles hey um… whats this about just wondering if you can help me on that.. cause that be so cool if any one let me kno what this is ^^ so yea tuddles

]]> By: Big Man's Band http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-114587 Big Man's Band Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:19:36 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-114587 I enjoyed this movie and would recommend it to anyone. And 2 Star Trek guys were in it(Anthony Montogomery and Cirroc Lofton). Yes! I enjoyed this movie and would recommend it to anyone. And 2 Star Trek guys were in it(Anthony Montogomery and Cirroc Lofton). Yes!

]]> By: jim diamond http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-114237 jim diamond Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:19:29 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-114237 I realize I am 2 months behind this thing but I wrote and sang the song,"I'm Through With White Girls" while I was a member of the Dirtbombs and I'm white! Where's my royalty check?!?!? Jim I realize I am 2 months behind this thing but I wrote and sang the song,”I’m Through With White Girls” while I was a member of the Dirtbombs and I’m white!
Where’s my royalty check?!?!?
Jim

]]> By: / HAMMER TO NAIL » Blog Archive » I’M THROUGH WITH WHITE GIRLS - The Crisis of the Blipster http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-110346 / HAMMER TO NAIL » Blog Archive » I’M THROUGH WITH WHITE GIRLS - The Crisis of the Blipster Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:25:41 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-110346 [...] that such a title may overwhelm one’s access to the film itself. At a recent screening at BAM, as Karina Longworth reported about over at Spout, a black female blogger commented that she feared to tell her white female friends [...] [...] that such a title may overwhelm one’s access to the film itself. At a recent screening at BAM, as Karina Longworth reported about over at Spout, a black female blogger commented that she feared to tell her white female friends [...]

]]> By: Noralil Ryan Fores http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-108262 Noralil Ryan Fores Tue, 15 Jul 2008 22:36:35 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-108262 To be frank, I'm still a fan of the second, less controversial title: The Inevitable Undoing of Jay Brooks. Lilly hated it, saying it never made any sense to him, but I think it actually speaks more to his journey in the film. In any case, at its core the film ain't all that controversial. It's just really cute and well-made. To be frank, I’m still a fan of the second, less controversial title: The Inevitable Undoing of Jay Brooks. Lilly hated it, saying it never made any sense to him, but I think it actually speaks more to his journey in the film.

In any case, at its core the film ain’t all that controversial. It’s just really cute and well-made.

]]> By: I’m Through With White Girls–The Post Game « ZOMBIE Blog http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-107972 I’m Through With White Girls–The Post Game « ZOMBIE Blog Thu, 10 Jul 2008 01:17:29 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-107972 [...] and i left early into the q&a afterward, but apparently it got kind of heated afterward. this blogger does a good job with the play-by-play. of course, i wasn’t there, but methinks those folks [...] [...] and i left early into the q&a afterward, but apparently it got kind of heated afterward. this blogger does a good job with the play-by-play. of course, i wasn’t there, but methinks those folks [...]

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-107948 Anonymous Wed, 09 Jul 2008 15:31:59 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-107948 Think folks need to see the film before they consider it's content! You can pre order it on Netflix! Think folks need to see the film before they consider it’s content! You can pre order it on Netflix!

]]> By: Qadree http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-107915 Qadree Tue, 08 Jul 2008 23:16:09 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-107915 I can only go off of what you have written about this event and it seems like there were a lot of clueless people there. Was there no one there that understood why the same story with the racial roles reversed would be more controversial? I'm surprised that was only criticism considering the content of the film. It wasn't exactly flattering to black women, not even in the slightest. I can only go off of what you have written about this event and it seems like there were a lot of clueless people there. Was there no one there that understood why the same story with the racial roles reversed would be more controversial?

I’m surprised that was only criticism considering the content of the film. It wasn’t exactly flattering to black women, not even in the slightest.

]]> By: Anonymous http://blog.spout.com/2008/07/08/afropunk-im-through-with-white-girls/#comment-107875 Anonymous Tue, 08 Jul 2008 15:57:50 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=3290#comment-107875 Wow! I'm the blogger in question. LOL. God I love web 2.0. Thanks for putting this up so quickly. Wow! I’m the blogger in question. LOL. God I love web 2.0. Thanks for putting this up so quickly.

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