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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2008/11/07/oscar-predictions-dark-knight-vs-rachel-getting-married/#comment-119463</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 16:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, really... 34 years is what you focused on. Well, since the oldest reference on this page is from 1979, I think I'm ok. I'm also ok in the fact that even though you feel my comment was hostile I still fit right in on a page that’s filled with unnecessarily hostile arguments over ONE mans opinion. Also, my point was that over the last 30 years box office hits have been in the mix in a big way. Shouldn't that say something? Plus, the films I listed aren't your run of the mill blockbuster, they are of the 150 top grossing films of all time but, since my journalistic integrity is being questioned, here ya go.

Movies that hit double digits since 1944

1972 
(Won) The Godfather 268 million

1971
(Won) The French Connection 41 million 

1970
(Won) Patton 62.5 million

1969
(Won) Midnight Cowboy 44 million 

1967
(Won) In the Heat of the Night 24 million 

1966
(Won) A Man for All Seasons 28.3 million 

1965
(Won) The Sound of Music 163 million

1964
(Won) My Fair Lady 72 million

1961
(Won) West Side Story 43 million

1960
(Won) The Apartment 24.6 million 

1957
(Won) The Bridge on the River Kwai 33 million

1956
(Won) Around the World in Eighty Days 42 million 

1953
(Won) From Here to Eternity 30 million

1952
(Won) The Greatest Show on Earth 36 million

1946
(Won) The Best Years of Our Lives 23 million 

1945
(Won) The Lost Weekend 11 million

1944
(Won) Going My Way 16 million</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, really&#8230; 34 years is what you focused on. Well, since the oldest reference on this page is from 1979, I think I&#8217;m ok. I&#8217;m also ok in the fact that even though you feel my comment was hostile I still fit right in on a page that’s filled with unnecessarily hostile arguments over ONE mans opinion. Also, my point was that over the last 30 years box office hits have been in the mix in a big way. Shouldn&#8217;t that say something? Plus, the films I listed aren&#8217;t your run of the mill blockbuster, they are of the 150 top grossing films of all time but, since my journalistic integrity is being questioned, here ya go.</p>
<p>Movies that hit double digits since 1944</p>
<p>1972<br />
(Won) The Godfather 268 million</p>
<p>1971<br />
(Won) The French Connection 41 million </p>
<p>1970<br />
(Won) Patton 62.5 million</p>
<p>1969<br />
(Won) Midnight Cowboy 44 million </p>
<p>1967<br />
(Won) In the Heat of the Night 24 million </p>
<p>1966<br />
(Won) A Man for All Seasons 28.3 million </p>
<p>1965<br />
(Won) The Sound of Music 163 million</p>
<p>1964<br />
(Won) My Fair Lady 72 million</p>
<p>1961<br />
(Won) West Side Story 43 million</p>
<p>1960<br />
(Won) The Apartment 24.6 million </p>
<p>1957<br />
(Won) The Bridge on the River Kwai 33 million</p>
<p>1956<br />
(Won) Around the World in Eighty Days 42 million </p>
<p>1953<br />
(Won) From Here to Eternity 30 million</p>
<p>1952<br />
(Won) The Greatest Show on Earth 36 million</p>
<p>1946<br />
(Won) The Best Years of Our Lives 23 million </p>
<p>1945<br />
(Won) The Lost Weekend 11 million</p>
<p>1944<br />
(Won) Going My Way 16 million</p>
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		<title>By: Karina Longworth</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2008/11/07/oscar-predictions-dark-knight-vs-rachel-getting-married/#comment-119439</link>
		<dc:creator>Karina Longworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny how you had to skip 34 years in order to make your unnecessarily hostile argument.</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, all of you guys that spoke out on this page including Longworth are in for a rude awakening. The age of films being important in the way they are now is coming to an end. The long debated question of art either being for the people or the artist is about to be answered. 

What nation has produced more wonderfully inspiring art in the form of film? Does society and government have a part to play in that? What elements allow an artist to create their best work? If any of you can answer these questions without mixing in personal beliefs or agendas, then maybe we could have a true conversation and not a self-flattering spew-fest on how much better one is from the so-called dimwit American culture.

by the way, here's a history lesson for those who obviously need it.
Did hollywood change or did we change? hmmmm

Year                    Movie                                          Gross

1939                                                                   
(won)                  Gone With the Wind                $198,676,459 

1973
(nominated)     The Exorcist                               $232,671,011 

1975
(nominated)     Jaws                                            $260,000,000 

1977
(nominated)     Star Wars                                   $460,998,007 

1981
(nominated)     Raiders of the Lost Ark           $242,374,454 

1982
(nominated)     Tootsie                                        $177,200,000 
(nominated)     E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial          $435,110,554 

1988
(won)                  Rain Man                                    $172,825,435 

1990
(won)                  Dances with Wolves                $184,208,848  
(nominated)     Ghost                                            $217,631,306  

1993
(nominated)     The Fugitive                                $183,875,760 

1994
(won)                   Forrest Gump                           $329,694,499 

1995
(nominated)      Apollo 13                                    $173,837,933 

1997
(won)                   Titanic                                       $600,788,188 (highest of all time)

1998
(nominated)      Saving Private Ryan               $216,540,909 

1999
(nominated)      The Sixth Sense                      $293,506,292 

2000
(won)                   Gladiator                                  $187,705,427

2001
(won)                   A Beautiful Mind                     $170,742,341
(nominated)      The Lord of the Rings: 
                               (The Fellowship of the 
                                Ring)                                      $314,776,170 

2002
(won)                   Chicago                                    $170,687,518  
(nominated)      The Lord of the Rings: 
                              (The Two Towers)                  $341,786,758 

2003
(won)                   The Lord of the Rings: 
                              (The Return of the King)        $377,027,325</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, all of you guys that spoke out on this page including Longworth are in for a rude awakening. The age of films being important in the way they are now is coming to an end. The long debated question of art either being for the people or the artist is about to be answered. </p>
<p>What nation has produced more wonderfully inspiring art in the form of film? Does society and government have a part to play in that? What elements allow an artist to create their best work? If any of you can answer these questions without mixing in personal beliefs or agendas, then maybe we could have a true conversation and not a self-flattering spew-fest on how much better one is from the so-called dimwit American culture.</p>
<p>by the way, here&#8217;s a history lesson for those who obviously need it.<br />
Did hollywood change or did we change? hmmmm</p>
<p>Year                    Movie                                          Gross</p>
<p>1939<br />
(won)                  Gone With the Wind                $198,676,459 </p>
<p>1973<br />
(nominated)     The Exorcist                               $232,671,011 </p>
<p>1975<br />
(nominated)     Jaws                                            $260,000,000 </p>
<p>1977<br />
(nominated)     Star Wars                                   $460,998,007 </p>
<p>1981<br />
(nominated)     Raiders of the Lost Ark           $242,374,454 </p>
<p>1982<br />
(nominated)     Tootsie                                        $177,200,000<br />
(nominated)     E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial          $435,110,554 </p>
<p>1988<br />
(won)                  Rain Man                                    $172,825,435 </p>
<p>1990<br />
(won)                  Dances with Wolves                $184,208,848<br />
(nominated)     Ghost                                            $217,631,306  </p>
<p>1993<br />
(nominated)     The Fugitive                                $183,875,760 </p>
<p>1994<br />
(won)                   Forrest Gump                           $329,694,499 </p>
<p>1995<br />
(nominated)      Apollo 13                                    $173,837,933 </p>
<p>1997<br />
(won)                   Titanic                                       $600,788,188 (highest of all time)</p>
<p>1998<br />
(nominated)      Saving Private Ryan               $216,540,909 </p>
<p>1999<br />
(nominated)      The Sixth Sense                      $293,506,292 </p>
<p>2000<br />
(won)                   Gladiator                                  $187,705,427</p>
<p>2001<br />
(won)                   A Beautiful Mind                     $170,742,341<br />
(nominated)      The Lord of the Rings:<br />
                               (The Fellowship of the<br />
                                Ring)                                      $314,776,170 </p>
<p>2002<br />
(won)                   Chicago                                    $170,687,518<br />
(nominated)      The Lord of the Rings:<br />
                              (The Two Towers)                  $341,786,758 </p>
<p>2003<br />
(won)                   The Lord of the Rings:<br />
                              (The Return of the King)        $377,027,325</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Shearer</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2008/11/07/oscar-predictions-dark-knight-vs-rachel-getting-married/#comment-116712</link>
		<dc:creator>Shane Shearer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that Paul Thomas Anderson has yet to win a Best Director Oscar is evidence that the Academy is backasswards. They're going to do him dirty like they did with Martin Scorsese for so long. I mean really, Oridinary People over Raging Bull?

Ridic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that Paul Thomas Anderson has yet to win a Best Director Oscar is evidence that the Academy is backasswards. They&#8217;re going to do him dirty like they did with Martin Scorsese for so long. I mean really, Oridinary People over Raging Bull?</p>
<p>Ridic.</p>
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		<title>By: Die Woche auf Zelluloid &#171; Kein Blut, Rot!</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2008/11/07/oscar-predictions-dark-knight-vs-rachel-getting-married/#comment-116706</link>
		<dc:creator>Die Woche auf Zelluloid &#171; Kein Blut, Rot!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Willen unter Beweis zu stellen? Ist in Ordnung, aber vorher lesen Sie bitte noch diesen Artikel im Spout Blog. In den USA diskutiert man gerade darüber, ob elitäre Filmkritiker und Blogger dem Publikum immer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Willen unter Beweis zu stellen? Ist in Ordnung, aber vorher lesen Sie bitte noch diesen Artikel im Spout Blog. In den USA diskutiert man gerade darüber, ob elitäre Filmkritiker und Blogger dem Publikum immer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:53:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1997: LA Confidential or Titanic? How can we pay any attention to the Academy after that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1997: LA Confidential or Titanic? How can we pay any attention to the Academy after that.</p>
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		<title>By: Woot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In total agreement with Huff, well articulated. Although the bank heist was great, The Dark Knight had the most awkward beginning ever (Harvey Dent's introduction, the warped Hong Kong subplot, etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In total agreement with Huff, well articulated. Although the bank heist was great, The Dark Knight had the most awkward beginning ever (Harvey Dent&#8217;s introduction, the warped Hong Kong subplot, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Karina Longworth</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2008/11/07/oscar-predictions-dark-knight-vs-rachel-getting-married/#comment-116700</link>
		<dc:creator>Karina Longworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, he says that, and then he spends the rest of the post making the opposite argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, he says that, and then he spends the rest of the post making the opposite argument.</p>
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		<title>By: ian</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2008/11/07/oscar-predictions-dark-knight-vs-rachel-getting-married/#comment-116699</link>
		<dc:creator>ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 17:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you two have more in common than you might think: "This isn’t an argument on my part that Best Picture picks should in anyway be based on popularity. That would be stupid." taken from Dirty Harry's post--- did you read it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you two have more in common than you might think: &#8220;This isn’t an argument on my part that Best Picture picks should in anyway be based on popularity. That would be stupid.&#8221; taken from Dirty Harry&#8217;s post&#8212; did you read it?</p>
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		<title>By: Huff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Huff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:21:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I think its undeniable that the Academy is biased towards certain types of films (though I think it has as much to do with star-power as political ideology; look at Clint Eastwood, who happens  to be a republican) his argument is really rather flawed. In a perfect world the awards would be given to the best
But honestly, The Dark Knight doesn't deserve to win Best Picture. Keep in mind this comes from the mouth of a guy who saw it three times. Superb blockbuster that actually makes you think? Definitely. Best superhero flick of all time? Sure. But a perfect movie? Not with the awkward beginning and the ending where the characters basically read stilted philosophical monologues instead of letting the action of the film speak for itself. It will probably make my top ten list and Ledger certainly deserves any awards he receives, but the script is too flawed to warrant a Best Picture award.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I think its undeniable that the Academy is biased towards certain types of films (though I think it has as much to do with star-power as political ideology; look at Clint Eastwood, who happens  to be a republican) his argument is really rather flawed. In a perfect world the awards would be given to the best<br />
But honestly, The Dark Knight doesn&#8217;t deserve to win Best Picture. Keep in mind this comes from the mouth of a guy who saw it three times. Superb blockbuster that actually makes you think? Definitely. Best superhero flick of all time? Sure. But a perfect movie? Not with the awkward beginning and the ending where the characters basically read stilted philosophical monologues instead of letting the action of the film speak for itself. It will probably make my top ten list and Ledger certainly deserves any awards he receives, but the script is too flawed to warrant a Best Picture award.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2008/11/07/oscar-predictions-dark-knight-vs-rachel-getting-married/#comment-116694</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 16:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone please explain to me why Shakespeare in Love can beat out Saving Private Ryan?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone please explain to me why Shakespeare in Love can beat out Saving Private Ryan?</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's face it... if we took 14 year olds out of the equation... how many films would gross over 100 million?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s face it&#8230; if we took 14 year olds out of the equation&#8230; how many films would gross over 100 million?</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:10:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there are those of us that actually found "Million Dollar Baby" to be a work of art!  Was it 1996 when the majority of films were indy faves, ie, "The English Patient, Fargo, Secrets &#38; Lies?"   Gotta' admit that "The Dark Knight" was entertaining, however, because it was/is a big budget, it should get the same resepct of the smaller films!  All a matter of taste.The Oscars are just fun!  Granted they tend to be the benchmark award to strive for, however, 99% of the winners are forgettable.  Great movies are lasting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there are those of us that actually found &#8220;Million Dollar Baby&#8221; to be a work of art!  Was it 1996 when the majority of films were indy faves, ie, &#8220;The English Patient, Fargo, Secrets &amp; Lies?&#8221;   Gotta&#8217; admit that &#8220;The Dark Knight&#8221; was entertaining, however, because it was/is a big budget, it should get the same resepct of the smaller films!  All a matter of taste.The Oscars are just fun!  Granted they tend to be the benchmark award to strive for, however, 99% of the winners are forgettable.  Great movies are lasting!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 14:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let us be clear about something.  The Oscars credibility and the credibility of boxoffice are *both* fatally flawed.   

Clearly box office doesn't mean a movie is good.  Many felt Spiderman III was a let down despite pretty good boxoffice, and the list could be drawn out in lengthy style.  

Not so clearly to some, the Oscar is extremely tainted.  In the last ten years I have disagreed with almost every best picture winner, but I certainly didn't think the award should have gone to the "boxoffice giant" of the year.

As for the Oscars, there are two really blatant examples that most people point to as evidence of problems.  First, and quite common, individuals point to "Citizen Kane" and the politics that surround it.  Think we are free from such politicization?  Then why to production houses lay out a lot of money to actually campaign?  The second example I point to occurred in 1994 (1995 awards).  That year "Forrest Gump" won best picture honors.  With due respect, "Forrest Gump" is a fine film.  Just fine as far as I measure. Whereas few people acknowledge that "Forrest Gump" is a better film than the Shawshank Redemption, which will stand as one of the greatest films ever made in my opinion.  Further, I feel that the following three films that year were also better films than "Forrest Gump".  "Hoop Dreams", "The Last Seduction", and "Pulp Fiction".  One may certainly disagree with all three of these, but consider that critics commonly hailed "Hoop Dreams" as the best film that year!  But, then again, they are "elitist", right?

I think these point out the pitfalls of choosing a "best film".  Basically, it will always be flawed.  I suggest thte better test is time, which has born out for "Citizen Kane", and should bear out for similarly high quality films.

-Steve</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let us be clear about something.  The Oscars credibility and the credibility of boxoffice are *both* fatally flawed.   </p>
<p>Clearly box office doesn&#8217;t mean a movie is good.  Many felt Spiderman III was a let down despite pretty good boxoffice, and the list could be drawn out in lengthy style.  </p>
<p>Not so clearly to some, the Oscar is extremely tainted.  In the last ten years I have disagreed with almost every best picture winner, but I certainly didn&#8217;t think the award should have gone to the &#8220;boxoffice giant&#8221; of the year.</p>
<p>As for the Oscars, there are two really blatant examples that most people point to as evidence of problems.  First, and quite common, individuals point to &#8220;Citizen Kane&#8221; and the politics that surround it.  Think we are free from such politicization?  Then why to production houses lay out a lot of money to actually campaign?  The second example I point to occurred in 1994 (1995 awards).  That year &#8220;Forrest Gump&#8221; won best picture honors.  With due respect, &#8220;Forrest Gump&#8221; is a fine film.  Just fine as far as I measure. Whereas few people acknowledge that &#8220;Forrest Gump&#8221; is a better film than the Shawshank Redemption, which will stand as one of the greatest films ever made in my opinion.  Further, I feel that the following three films that year were also better films than &#8220;Forrest Gump&#8221;.  &#8220;Hoop Dreams&#8221;, &#8220;The Last Seduction&#8221;, and &#8220;Pulp Fiction&#8221;.  One may certainly disagree with all three of these, but consider that critics commonly hailed &#8220;Hoop Dreams&#8221; as the best film that year!  But, then again, they are &#8220;elitist&#8221;, right?</p>
<p>I think these point out the pitfalls of choosing a &#8220;best film&#8221;.  Basically, it will always be flawed.  I suggest thte better test is time, which has born out for &#8220;Citizen Kane&#8221;, and should bear out for similarly high quality films.</p>
<p>-Steve</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:42:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"But there was a time when big box office hits were consistently fighting for the Best Picture Oscar. That time has passed."

It's not that the Oscars have started to ignore those big films, it's that the audiences have started to ignore them. The Oscars have always nominated films like Atonement and Michael Clayton and Capote, but back in the '70s, for example, the audiences were watching those kinds of films as well, so the nominees invariably also did big numbers at the box office.

Kramer Vs. Kramer was the biggest film of the year in 1979, and audiences flocked to see it in the theatre. However, nowadays a film like that would be lumped into the "Oscar nominee that didn't capture the audience's imagination" category.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But there was a time when big box office hits were consistently fighting for the Best Picture Oscar. That time has passed.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not that the Oscars have started to ignore those big films, it&#8217;s that the audiences have started to ignore them. The Oscars have always nominated films like Atonement and Michael Clayton and Capote, but back in the &#8217;70s, for example, the audiences were watching those kinds of films as well, so the nominees invariably also did big numbers at the box office.</p>
<p>Kramer Vs. Kramer was the biggest film of the year in 1979, and audiences flocked to see it in the theatre. However, nowadays a film like that would be lumped into the &#8220;Oscar nominee that didn&#8217;t capture the audience&#8217;s imagination&#8221; category.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Hagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Hagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 13:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like last year's Oscar a list of unknowns (except Juno) who box office sucess was marginal.  With the winner being a movie of blood and violence with little story.  Should the Oscar's become a peoples choice award. No! But it should be more relevant to what is actually popular.  What it needs is A Best Picture for Drama and a Best Picture for Comedy.  Since most comedy movies will out score the dramas in the box office and as it is now have no hope of winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like last year&#8217;s Oscar a list of unknowns (except Juno) who box office sucess was marginal.  With the winner being a movie of blood and violence with little story.  Should the Oscar&#8217;s become a peoples choice award. No! But it should be more relevant to what is actually popular.  What it needs is A Best Picture for Drama and a Best Picture for Comedy.  Since most comedy movies will out score the dramas in the box office and as it is now have no hope of winning.</p>
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		<title>By: John M</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. This Dirty Harry guy's argument is so deeply flawed, there's almost no point in arguing with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. This Dirty Harry guy&#8217;s argument is so deeply flawed, there&#8217;s almost no point in arguing with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:12:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey... first I just want to say that this was a great post.  I have only followed The Academy Awards for a few years, and like everyone else, have noticed how it seems the indie films are dominating the Best Picture category.  

If we just take a quick recap, last year's highest grossing Best Picture nominee was Juno, which really was an exception when it comes to low-budget independent films.  But basically, all of the films were independent.  The Departed won in 2006, but the rest of the nominees grossed an estimated TOTAL of $163 million (yes, not even half of what The Dark Knight has made this year).  Even the year before that, two independent films were battling it out for the big award: Crash and Brokeback Mountain.

All you keep hearing is how viewership for The Academy Awards is down.  Down down down.  Why aren't people watching?  Is it really because the films nominated for Best Picture are ones that no one has watched?  That makes sense, but it's hardly The Academy's fault.  I don't believe High School Musical and Transformers deserve the Best Picture Oscar.  But quality is down for the big blockbusters... that is until this year.

The Dark Knight is what everyone has been waiting for.  The movie that smashed box office records AND was great.  This is what The Academy has also been waiting for since Lord of the Rings.  This is the chance for viewership to shoot upward for this year's Oscars.  This is why I really think The Dark Knight will be at least nominated for Best Picture this year.

But there was a time when big box office hits were consistently fighting for the Best Picture Oscar.  That time has passed.  Even if The Dark Knight is nominated this year, it'll still be surrounded by significantly smaller films.  But hopefully TDK is a sign to studios that a film can make a lot of money AND be really good at the same time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey&#8230; first I just want to say that this was a great post.  I have only followed The Academy Awards for a few years, and like everyone else, have noticed how it seems the indie films are dominating the Best Picture category.  </p>
<p>If we just take a quick recap, last year&#8217;s highest grossing Best Picture nominee was Juno, which really was an exception when it comes to low-budget independent films.  But basically, all of the films were independent.  The Departed won in 2006, but the rest of the nominees grossed an estimated TOTAL of $163 million (yes, not even half of what The Dark Knight has made this year).  Even the year before that, two independent films were battling it out for the big award: Crash and Brokeback Mountain.</p>
<p>All you keep hearing is how viewership for The Academy Awards is down.  Down down down.  Why aren&#8217;t people watching?  Is it really because the films nominated for Best Picture are ones that no one has watched?  That makes sense, but it&#8217;s hardly The Academy&#8217;s fault.  I don&#8217;t believe High School Musical and Transformers deserve the Best Picture Oscar.  But quality is down for the big blockbusters&#8230; that is until this year.</p>
<p>The Dark Knight is what everyone has been waiting for.  The movie that smashed box office records AND was great.  This is what The Academy has also been waiting for since Lord of the Rings.  This is the chance for viewership to shoot upward for this year&#8217;s Oscars.  This is why I really think The Dark Knight will be at least nominated for Best Picture this year.</p>
<p>But there was a time when big box office hits were consistently fighting for the Best Picture Oscar.  That time has passed.  Even if The Dark Knight is nominated this year, it&#8217;ll still be surrounded by significantly smaller films.  But hopefully TDK is a sign to studios that a film can make a lot of money AND be really good at the same time.</p>
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