Comments on: Cinema Eye Honors 2009 Shortlist http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/08/cinema-eye-honors-2009-shortlist/ Daily coverage of what is truly interesting in the film world Tue, 10 Nov 2009 00:26:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: T.Holly http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/08/cinema-eye-honors-2009-shortlist/#comment-119334 T.Holly Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:47:14 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=8939#comment-119334 What's a shortlist for if a movie "need not be on the shortlist to end up with a nomination in one or more categories. Last year, 11 films received nominations that were not previously on the shortlist (and one film on the shortlist did not receive a nomination)."? You honestly didn't read that? What’s a shortlist for if a movie “need not be on the shortlist to end up with a nomination in one or more categories. Last year, 11 films received nominations that were not previously on the shortlist (and one film on the shortlist did not receive a nomination).”?

You honestly didn’t read that?

]]> By: Karina Longworth http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/08/cinema-eye-honors-2009-shortlist/#comment-119320 Karina Longworth Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:27:42 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=8939#comment-119320 Do you mean "and what’s up with announcing a list you can go outside of?" I would respond to it, but I don't understand what you're asking. Do you mean “and what’s up with announcing a list you can go outside of?”

I would respond to it, but I don’t understand what you’re asking.

]]> By: T.Holly http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/08/cinema-eye-honors-2009-shortlist/#comment-119319 T.Holly Fri, 09 Jan 2009 19:06:27 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=8939#comment-119319 Take me seriously, I'm suspicious of 15 because if it were 25, I don't think you could make the self evident statement: "It's notable that on this shortlist of 15 films there are only six titles that overlap the Oscar's shortlist of 15 documentaries. I think that speaks to the diversity of voices and opinions in the field." It’s not antipathy but cynicism; can you explain the second part of my question while I continue thinking about the other parts; take your time, the press release has come and gone. Take me seriously, I’m suspicious of 15 because if it were 25, I don’t think you could make the self evident statement: “It’s notable that on this shortlist of 15 films there are only six titles that overlap the Oscar’s shortlist of 15 documentaries. I think that speaks to the diversity of voices and opinions in the field.”

It’s not antipathy but cynicism; can you explain the second part of my question while I continue thinking about the other parts; take your time, the press release has come and gone.

]]> By: Karina Longworth http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/08/cinema-eye-honors-2009-shortlist/#comment-119317 Karina Longworth Fri, 09 Jan 2009 17:49:41 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=8939#comment-119317 T. Holly, I would really like to hear your suggestions. It would be easier to take your criticism seriously if you offered alternatives. Your constant antipathy towards the Cinema Eyes has to be based on more than that they pick a short list of 15 films ... T. Holly, I would really like to hear your suggestions. It would be easier to take your criticism seriously if you offered alternatives. Your constant antipathy towards the Cinema Eyes has to be based on more than that they pick a short list of 15 films …

]]> By: T.Holly http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/08/cinema-eye-honors-2009-shortlist/#comment-119315 T.Holly Fri, 09 Jan 2009 16:50:57 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=8939#comment-119315 Not sure Karina, but I think I could. What's so special about 15, that's the number the Academy uses, and what's up with announcing a list you can go outside of? Not sure Karina, but I think I could. What’s so special about 15, that’s the number the Academy uses, and what’s up with announcing a list you can go outside of?

]]> By: Karina Longworth http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/08/cinema-eye-honors-2009-shortlist/#comment-119296 Karina Longworth Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:57:57 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=8939#comment-119296 T. Holly, why don't you suggest some "useful, honest categories that advance the dialogue on documentary filmmaking" ? T. Holly, why don’t you suggest some “useful, honest categories that advance the dialogue on documentary filmmaking” ?

]]> By: T.Holly http://blog.spout.com/2009/01/08/cinema-eye-honors-2009-shortlist/#comment-119295 T.Holly Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:43:21 +0000 http://blog.spout.com/?p=8939#comment-119295 Yawn, the best non-fiction films will compete for Direction, Production, Cinematography, Editing, Graphic Design and Animation, Debut Feature, International Feature and Outstanding Achievement in Original Music Score, just like the big boys, the narrative films, do, when they could be competing in useful, honest categories that advance the dialogue on documentary filmmaking. Yawn, the best non-fiction films will compete for Direction, Production, Cinematography, Editing, Graphic Design and Animation, Debut Feature, International Feature and Outstanding Achievement in Original Music Score, just like the big boys, the narrative films, do, when they could be competing in useful, honest categories that advance the dialogue on documentary filmmaking.

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