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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2009/03/09/10-worst-holocaust-movie-trends/#comment-135967</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, we can't have a good nazi or a bad nazi. How are we suppose to have nazis at all? And there are many holocaoust movies that were never close to winning oscars, and I am glad that The Reader was up for best picture, it was great.
And why is it always Holloywood thats greedy. I think that people in Holloywood want to make good films, not just make money. If all they cared about is money all they would make is transformer type films. I know lots of people that do not go to theses types of films because there to sad, so how is it just for profit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, we can&#8217;t have a good nazi or a bad nazi. How are we suppose to have nazis at all? And there are many holocaoust movies that were never close to winning oscars, and I am glad that The Reader was up for best picture, it was great.<br />
And why is it always Holloywood thats greedy. I think that people in Holloywood want to make good films, not just make money. If all they cared about is money all they would make is transformer type films. I know lots of people that do not go to theses types of films because there to sad, so how is it just for profit.</p>
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		<title>By: David Erikson</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2009/03/09/10-worst-holocaust-movie-trends/#comment-135010</link>
		<dc:creator>David Erikson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"But cinema is not supposed to be a complete representation of real life anyway, and everyone is better off just holding on to the idea that all Nazis were bad guys.:  I find this statement to be  at best naive and at worst dangerous.

Humanizing Nazis is the only way to tell the true story of the Holocaust.  That real human beings were able to perpetrate such evil is the tragedy that must be prevented.

Nazis were humans and that is the point.  They weren't mindless evil robots.  However, they behaved like mindless evil robots.  That there was a group of humans, the Jews,  that had this happen to them is only half the story.  The other half is that there was a group of humans that did it.

As long as films deny the humanity of the Nazis they will never get anywhere near truly portraying what happened.

Until we understand what can go wrong in the human heart to allow people to commit such atrocities,  the atrocities will continue to happen over and over.  If we deny that evil doers have hearts in the first place we understand nothing.  Nazis weren't born evil.

You seem to be saying that even though some elements of Holocaust films are actually true they shouldn't be included because they create moral complexity.  Until you grapple with the complexity of the Holocaust you know nothing about it. 

It's as if you want to scrub Holocaust films of any element that doesn't fit in with the way you yourself think history should be portrayed...even if the element happens to be true.  Guess who else did that, Chris.

Also, some of your points only have one example.  One example does not a trend make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But cinema is not supposed to be a complete representation of real life anyway, and everyone is better off just holding on to the idea that all Nazis were bad guys.:  I find this statement to be  at best naive and at worst dangerous.</p>
<p>Humanizing Nazis is the only way to tell the true story of the Holocaust.  That real human beings were able to perpetrate such evil is the tragedy that must be prevented.</p>
<p>Nazis were humans and that is the point.  They weren&#8217;t mindless evil robots.  However, they behaved like mindless evil robots.  That there was a group of humans, the Jews,  that had this happen to them is only half the story.  The other half is that there was a group of humans that did it.</p>
<p>As long as films deny the humanity of the Nazis they will never get anywhere near truly portraying what happened.</p>
<p>Until we understand what can go wrong in the human heart to allow people to commit such atrocities,  the atrocities will continue to happen over and over.  If we deny that evil doers have hearts in the first place we understand nothing.  Nazis weren&#8217;t born evil.</p>
<p>You seem to be saying that even though some elements of Holocaust films are actually true they shouldn&#8217;t be included because they create moral complexity.  Until you grapple with the complexity of the Holocaust you know nothing about it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s as if you want to scrub Holocaust films of any element that doesn&#8217;t fit in with the way you yourself think history should be portrayed&#8230;even if the element happens to be true.  Guess who else did that, Chris.</p>
<p>Also, some of your points only have one example.  One example does not a trend make.</p>
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		<title>By: Once upon a time in Nazi occupied France&#8230; &#171; Film School</title>
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		<dc:creator>Once upon a time in Nazi occupied France&#8230; &#171; Film School</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Aug 2009 14:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are familiar with the conventions of a Holocaust film.  We’ve seen so many.  We know what to [...]</description>
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		<title>By: organ grinder</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2009/03/09/10-worst-holocaust-movie-trends/#comment-131357</link>
		<dc:creator>organ grinder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The objective of any Holocaust film is to recharge the batteries in the anti-Semitic label.    And why do this?   Well because today the label is applied to anyone who questions the legitimacy of Israel;  anyone who feels uneasy about  bias in the media and entertainment industry  - in fact it's not unthinkable to imagine there will be someone ready to label you an anti Semite simply for your assertion that you think Seinfeld is the worst sit-com ever.   With this in mind, and considering the label is the most versatile weapon for shutting down an opposing argument, It's very important to remind people that anti-Semitism is synonymous with the most evil tendencies  in human nature .... The problem most Zionists had with "The Reader"  was that it stated the obvious - that even the Nazis were human beings...But this does nothing to invigorate the label "Anti Semite".   Nazis need to be unrelenting demons, if the label is going to be effective when applied to broader groups of people 

 You might just think, hell, wouldn't it be nice to see some Palestinian view points in Cinema without that other potent label "Terrorist" hovering above them - and wouldn't this make a change from the relentless zionist pap we get fed year in year out.....but of course, even if you do have these thoughts, you're never going to say them out loud.  No body wants their latent Nazi, Jew murdering inclinations to be aired in public ....Best keep your dark tendencies to yourself, zip your mouth and be on your way</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The objective of any Holocaust film is to recharge the batteries in the anti-Semitic label.    And why do this?   Well because today the label is applied to anyone who questions the legitimacy of Israel;  anyone who feels uneasy about  bias in the media and entertainment industry  - in fact it&#8217;s not unthinkable to imagine there will be someone ready to label you an anti Semite simply for your assertion that you think Seinfeld is the worst sit-com ever.   With this in mind, and considering the label is the most versatile weapon for shutting down an opposing argument, It&#8217;s very important to remind people that anti-Semitism is synonymous with the most evil tendencies  in human nature &#8230;. The problem most Zionists had with &#8220;The Reader&#8221;  was that it stated the obvious - that even the Nazis were human beings&#8230;But this does nothing to invigorate the label &#8220;Anti Semite&#8221;.   Nazis need to be unrelenting demons, if the label is going to be effective when applied to broader groups of people </p>
<p> You might just think, hell, wouldn&#8217;t it be nice to see some Palestinian view points in Cinema without that other potent label &#8220;Terrorist&#8221; hovering above them - and wouldn&#8217;t this make a change from the relentless zionist pap we get fed year in year out&#8230;..but of course, even if you do have these thoughts, you&#8217;re never going to say them out loud.  No body wants their latent Nazi, Jew murdering inclinations to be aired in public &#8230;.Best keep your dark tendencies to yourself, zip your mouth and be on your way</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Wagner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Wagner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 22:13:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like the 4th one you talked about! The boy in striped pajamas was an excellent movie and it tells the history Between Jermans and Jews.  It lets us realize it how you are raised and brainwashed to think!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like the 4th one you talked about! The boy in striped pajamas was an excellent movie and it tells the history Between Jermans and Jews.  It lets us realize it how you are raised and brainwashed to think!</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christopher Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Melissa. Thanks for the correction.</description>
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		<title>By: Melissa Kim</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2009/03/09/10-worst-holocaust-movie-trends/#comment-126063</link>
		<dc:creator>Melissa Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:31:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn't write the article on Tiger Online. I illustrated the picture that accompanied the article.
The article should be credited to Sabrina Ketel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t write the article on Tiger Online. I illustrated the picture that accompanied the article.<br />
The article should be credited to Sabrina Ketel.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Campbell</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2009/03/09/10-worst-holocaust-movie-trends/#comment-122399</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 00:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I haven't actually.</description>
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		<title>By: loquaciousmuse</title>
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		<dc:creator>loquaciousmuse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you by any chance seen Toyland, the Oscar winning live action short from this year?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you by any chance seen Toyland, the Oscar winning live action short from this year?</p>
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