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Mumblecore, David Denby and the Line in the Sand

Karina Longworth
By Karina Longworth posted 8 months ago
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It would take a certain amount of energy and emotional strength to produce a full consideration of David Denby’s piece in today’s New Yorker, which swiftly traces the lineage of the last seven years of American micro-independent film up to and including Joe Swanberg’s upcoming SXSW and IFC VOD debut, Alexander the Last. I currently feel that this variety of strength and quantity of energy are resources that I cannot access, and if I could, I’m not sure the best target to point them at would be a piece that has already been declared late to the party by two reliable sources.  However, in case it seems imperative to take up this task at some point in the future, here are the vague bases I would try to touch in such a consideration:

    • Prior to this, David Denby has produced two notable works in the past six months (in this case, we’ll take “notable” to be equivalent to “provoking of blog posts and/or mocking on The Daily Show“; if there is another definition of the word here on Planet Earth in 2009, I don’t understand the question and I won’t respond to it). Most recently, there was Snark, a polemical book in which the film critic argues that “snarkers like to think they are deploying wit, but mostly they are exposing the seethe and snarl of an unhappy country, releasing bad feeling but little laughter,” and goes on to cite with no apparent humour intended the nine elements that make snark so dangerous.  A short time after Snark was published, Denby wrote off The Curious Case of Benjamin Button — a film which might rightly be considered to embody the bloated sincerity that finely calibrated snark so successfully deflates –– with the witty rejoinder, “who cares?” Denby then went on to point out, clearly without “bad feeling”, that “many people in Hollywood endlessly have ‘work’ done to put off aging, and here’s a movie that begins with a wizened baby and ends with physical perfection, a progression that may encapsulate both the nightmares and the dreams of half the Academy.”
    • Up until this point, about once a year, every year of this decade, someone somewhere declared something an example of The New Sincerity. Radio/podcast host Jesse Thorn once called it a “cultural movement founded by yours truly.” As described by Thorn, The New Sincerity is all about “a willingness to earnestly appreciate something even if it’s bigger than something someone would earnestly feel comfortable earnestly appreciating. Even if it means taking the risk of someone thinking it’s ridiculous because, ultimately, it’s more important to be awesome than to be cool.” This desire for sincerity pops up in various corners of the culture every now and then, usually as a self-conscious reaction to what was called in the 90s “irony”, and only became “snark” after everyone said that after 9/11, irony couldn’t exist. For whatever reason, The New Sinceritists have failed to embrace Denby’s attack on snark, which has not often been described as either “awesome” or “cool,” as far as I am aware. However, I will admit that the most intensive criticism of Snark that I’ve consumed has been that blogged/vlogged/Twittered by Ana Marie Cox, who took exception to Denby’s comments about her former blog Wonkette, and who described the book as one “about getting kids off his lawn.”
    • Emily Gould, former editor of Gawker and, in some circles, the poster girl for snark without substance, memorably eviscerated Swanberg’s Hannah Takes the Stairs in concert with its premiere at the IFC Center. In that review, Gould refered to Hannah as “megahyped” and generally sold the fiction that that the film was some kind of corporate ploy to sell her generation back to itself, and that it got that representation wrong; she specifically complained that a scene in which one character remarks on another’s blog-to-book deal “made the movie seem at least two years old.” This was before Gould had a bit of a scandal involving boys and blogs, which she funneled into her own book deal; she now says that when she edited Gawker, she “really did not ever think of the person I was writing about sitting there and reading what I’d written. I sincerely thought that the kind of people who got written about were somehow different from me.” One wonders what she might think of Hannah on a second viewing after all that has happened to all of us since that heady summer of 2007. But let’s just confine this argument to that moment: in that moment, Emily Gould was New York media’s highest profile snarkist, and of Joe Swanberg, she didn’t approve.
    • So if there is an imaginary line in the sand between snark and sincerity which informs much of our contemporary conversation and most of our popular culture, then anti-snark crusader Denby is now only pointing to what we may have known in our hearts for awhile, which is that a handful of filmmakers and their slightly larger number of fans are on one side of this line, and the tastemakers of young adult media consumption and most of the consumers the trickle down to are irrevocably on the other. It’s maybe a no brainer which side the David Denbys of the world gravitate to. Are these films, which strive for a certain realism regarding life as a twenty-something today (and, in many cases, I think, achieve it) fundamentally at odds with what really real people of that generation accept as either art or entertainment? And if the whole point of working on a small scale is to be able to do things and say things that they wouldn’t be able to do if their creative decisions were dictated by demographic research and corporate synergy and the financial passions of fifty-somethings — well, isn’t that the point?

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      • Glenn Kenny said

        I feel like I’m banging my head against a wall, but I’ll try it one more time: this debate isn’t about “films that strive for a certain realism regarding life as a twenty-something today” and how the man doesn’t want you twenty-somethings to have them, but about films that are successful and films that are pernicious, artless con jobs. Bully for you that you hedge towards Denby’s provisional thumbs-up for sincerity, but you’ll note that when he presses himself to defend the putative school of filmmakers, it’s Bujalski and Katz he cites, not Swanberg.

        It’s never about “voices” of a “generation.” It’s always about particular filmmakers, particular films. I may think that Emily Gould is way less smart than David Denby, but you know what? She was dead right about “Hannah Takes The Stairs.”

        Also, what’s with “humour”? Did you become Canadian over this weekend? (It’s a joke, really, it’s just a joke…)

      • Karina Longworth said

        I thought it was interesting that Denby didn’t mention BEESWAX. You’d think, if he was such a Bujalski fan, he’d at least be aware of it and think its existence was worth noting in this conversation, even if he hasn’t yet seen it.

        For what it’s worth, I’m half English and was taught various words with a “u” spelling, and even after all this time sometimes I slip. But, yeah, funny joke.

      • aaron g said

        i’m w/ glenn on this. i just turned 28 and i find “mumblecore” to be as phony, cloistered, and insular as an episode of the hills (and just as white and privileged). actually, that’s not true–i think the hills is more truthful and realistic than “mumblecore.” there is nothing skillful or artful about what swanberg and bujalski do, nor do they speak for me or any of my friends. it’s obnoxious that anyone would possibly think “mumblecore” speaks for a generation. “mumblecore” films are about a very specific type of person; bujalski and swanberg lack the insight and curiosity into exploring worlds and people who don’t look, act, and think like they do.

      • Jerry said

        Mr. Kenny, you are right. No need to go further. As a democratic effort to barely turn a camera on and film young folks having sex at best, or wasting time with long silly pauses at worst, they win.

        After all, everyone has a right to film themselves and their friends.

        To sale it as filmed art is another matter all together. Wiht the exception of some of Katz’s work, they should have kept them in a big cardboard box maked “film school” in magic marker instead of trying to sale them.

        Jerry

      • Andy B said

        Glenn’s comment is right on target. And Denby’s assessment seems pretty fair, even on the generous side.

        I speak as a late twenty-something cinephile who has followed this “movement” and found little to celebrate in the stories told (and lives represented), nor in the general lack of cinematic ambition.

        As long as festivals and distribs (namely SXSW and IFC) prop up the work, it remains fair game for criticism.

        As for snark/sincerity, I always welcome authentic voices that show an awareness of the world that’s larger than an obsession with self.

      • Andy B said

        Oh, and I put “movement” in quotes because the label gets in the way of talking about “particular filmmakers, particular films” as Glenn rightly puts it. In that way, much of the harshest criticism has certainly been targeted at Swanberg.

      • iamanonymous said

        Although I haven’t seen Swanberg’s newest, the trailer appears to tread nothing new for the filmmaker. My own criticism then for Denby, and I’ve already qualified this, is that Swanberg’s film seem to continue, even with his newest, to lack any semblance of artful filmmaking.

      • Pierre said

        For me, any concerns towards Mumblecore are valid as there is always sincerity in question when it comes specifically to Swanberg. Whilst Katz and Bujalski’s direction and plotting is skilled enough to operate an air of authenticity and entertainment, I’m not always sold with Swanberg. A few too many scenes/instances/dialogues ring false in his work. This is bad considering Swanberg’s works makes up a large proportion of the movement.

        So basically I agree with Glenn that it’s a case-to-case assessment rather than a generalisation.

        I don’t have much to add except for these two things:

        Youthquake is a *horrible* term
        and
        There is meant to be a ‘U’ in humour. Learn to spell, Americans.

      • Pierre said
      • Rob said

        So many of you here have already said that which I could repeat here over and over and over again. But you said it better, so why bother? However, I would like to add a few things to this, um, discussion.

        I don’t care if you DV’ers use the term “film” as a catch-all to describe your VIDEOS, because they are NOT films, they are, at best, movies, And I would argue that that is even a stretch. Choosing to bend the definition in order to suit your needs is desperate attempt at legitimizing a medium by using the term of another for the sake of defending your I’ve-got-a-camera-let’s-make-a-movie-maybe-our-fellow-filmmaker friends-and sycophantic follows-will-like-it aesthetic.

        Many years ago, Francis Ford Coppola got into some hot water after commenting on the democratization of moviemaking in light of the avent of emerging video technologies, “One day some little fat girl in Ohio is going to be the new Mozart” Well, I’ve been waiting for that fat girl ever since, whilst Mozart is still rolling around in a Vienna ditch.

        The secret is out, kids. Your experiential, slice-of-life tales are not artful in any sense of the word. Your movies are largely plotless because you are simply not creative and/or smart enough to develop any. And that’s why your movies play one-offs and are relegated to VOD services, because an overwhelming majority of moviegoers don’t want to pay ten bucks to see your little, home movies when all they have to do is look outside their windows. And the last time I checked, the art of looking was free, which is a value greater than the excrement you hoist up onto movie screens.

      • velodoccitane said

        You get good comments on this site, I will say that!

        Rob, even though you are mostly correct (and very amusing), please calm your overt aggression. Take it easy and understand that passive aggression is the norm today. This argument is an on-going process that has no beginning or end: Karina will one day be a post-menopausal 50-something too one day, struggling to keep a grip on her sanity while she flickers out. . . and so-on, ad infinitum. It’s go nothing to do with art (which is a constant). This argument is entirely about age as it pertains to cultural hegemony.