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		<title>By: ADC</title>
		<link>http://blog.spout.com/2009/04/29/the-limits-of-control-review/#comment-136955</link>
		<dc:creator>ADC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 12:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was disappointed with this film. 

No doubt many journalists will give it glowing reviews just to disguise the fact that they didn't understand it, for fear of looking uneducated, uncultured or missing the intellectual beats. Fact is, the film is a pretentious mess; two hours of the stoned art school student let loose with the failed painter turned lecturer's philosophy of "if it makes no sense then everyone will believe it's genius because we are above anything mainstream". 
Which means it will appeal to anyone who believes a pile of bricks on the Tate gallery floor is also genius or conveys a message of importance.

This film was made without a script, no storyboarding, no shot list -- and it shows. It is the only time in a cinema I have ever strained to stay awake. I only stayed the course hoping the pay off would be worthwhile. It is two hours of my life I'll never get back.
It's not that I didn't understand this film. It's not that clever.

The film is nothing but self indulgent art for arts sake. It is boring, unimaginative and in no way entertains. Jarmusch needs to take his head out of his anus and put it straight on the guillotine.

The fact that this film will see a limited release in art house cinemas and the like only reassures that people en masse will not be subjected to such a weak effort and that the 'wannabe intellectuals' can look down their reading glasses and compare notes about obscure references while the rest of humanity is blissfully oblivious to such cack, happily making hay in the bushes.

Some nice locations and good artistic cinematography do not a film make. The irony is, for all its pseudo intellectualism, this film suffers the same fate as the average big budget special effects Hollywood blockbuster -- nice visuals, nice design, no story.

Highly unrecommended.
ADC</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was disappointed with this film. </p>
<p>No doubt many journalists will give it glowing reviews just to disguise the fact that they didn&#8217;t understand it, for fear of looking uneducated, uncultured or missing the intellectual beats. Fact is, the film is a pretentious mess; two hours of the stoned art school student let loose with the failed painter turned lecturer&#8217;s philosophy of &#8220;if it makes no sense then everyone will believe it&#8217;s genius because we are above anything mainstream&#8221;.<br />
Which means it will appeal to anyone who believes a pile of bricks on the Tate gallery floor is also genius or conveys a message of importance.</p>
<p>This film was made without a script, no storyboarding, no shot list &#8212; and it shows. It is the only time in a cinema I have ever strained to stay awake. I only stayed the course hoping the pay off would be worthwhile. It is two hours of my life I&#8217;ll never get back.<br />
It&#8217;s not that I didn&#8217;t understand this film. It&#8217;s not that clever.</p>
<p>The film is nothing but self indulgent art for arts sake. It is boring, unimaginative and in no way entertains. Jarmusch needs to take his head out of his anus and put it straight on the guillotine.</p>
<p>The fact that this film will see a limited release in art house cinemas and the like only reassures that people en masse will not be subjected to such a weak effort and that the &#8216;wannabe intellectuals&#8217; can look down their reading glasses and compare notes about obscure references while the rest of humanity is blissfully oblivious to such cack, happily making hay in the bushes.</p>
<p>Some nice locations and good artistic cinematography do not a film make. The irony is, for all its pseudo intellectualism, this film suffers the same fate as the average big budget special effects Hollywood blockbuster &#8212; nice visuals, nice design, no story.</p>
<p>Highly unrecommended.<br />
ADC</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Bowman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Bowman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 23:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes that scene early on where the translator said "Idont get it" hits the nail on the head. I didn't get it, the whole thing was pointless, two hours of wasted time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that scene early on where the translator said &#8220;Idont get it&#8221; hits the nail on the head. I didn&#8217;t get it, the whole thing was pointless, two hours of wasted time.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Boone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Boone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 May 2009 22:56:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eh, this review was so much more stimulating than the movie. I felt like (to jack Manny Farber) a stupid ass as Jarmusch sailed signs and meanings over my head. I was bored-- the scenes of DeBankole in his coral blue suit resisting the charms of that classic nude notwithstanding.

Reminds me of the juicy promise of Ghost Dog, squandered by Jarmusch's total lack of genre fanboy restlessness. He doesn't play around with genres so much as sleepily toy with them.

Matterfact, Roberto Benigni, John Lurie and Tom Waits are responsible for roughly 97% of my interest in this filmmaker. That was a loong time ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eh, this review was so much more stimulating than the movie. I felt like (to jack Manny Farber) a stupid ass as Jarmusch sailed signs and meanings over my head. I was bored&#8211; the scenes of DeBankole in his coral blue suit resisting the charms of that classic nude notwithstanding.</p>
<p>Reminds me of the juicy promise of Ghost Dog, squandered by Jarmusch&#8217;s total lack of genre fanboy restlessness. He doesn&#8217;t play around with genres so much as sleepily toy with them.</p>
<p>Matterfact, Roberto Benigni, John Lurie and Tom Waits are responsible for roughly 97% of my interest in this filmmaker. That was a loong time ago.</p>
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		<title>By: KN</title>
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		<dc:creator>KN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 21:28:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Karina, for your thoughtful review. Saw the film last night and it made me happy. I've been trying to decide what exactly I saw ever since, which also makes me happy. I wanted to share an observation and see if anybody felt the same. 

Like you said, the film is largely based on repetition - but not exact repetition, rather slight variations on a theme, both visually and verbally. 
It struck me right from the beginning that the film is more like a piece of music than a film in the traditional sense. 

The airport scene in the beginning both gives us all the lines in the film (except for the monologues) and starts to subtly vary them. The "Creole" gives his instructions (in Creole) and they are subtitled (in English) and translated (but not quite verbatim). We're essentially given the same cryptic  notions three times, but slightly varied. 

As the film progresses through repeating the same meeting scenario over and over again, the lines are repeated in different languages, become part of a song, are written on the back of  a truck. They're like the theme or chorus line which gather meaning through the solos (monologues on  art, film, drugs, etc.)

Visually, the same thing is happening. The same images are repeated again and again (Lone Traveler in cafes, on stairs, in a car; the espresso cups; the matchboxes; the tai-chi) from sightly different angles, forming a visual beat.

Jarmusch is like a minimalist composer who works with a self-imposed rigorous set of soundbites and visuals to develop his theme (in both musical and philosphical sense) gradually throughout the piece so that what seems random and sparse to begin with makes perfect sense by the time the Lone Traveler (or actually the camera) bows out. 

Encore, Mr. Jarmusch!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Karina, for your thoughtful review. Saw the film last night and it made me happy. I&#8217;ve been trying to decide what exactly I saw ever since, which also makes me happy. I wanted to share an observation and see if anybody felt the same. </p>
<p>Like you said, the film is largely based on repetition - but not exact repetition, rather slight variations on a theme, both visually and verbally.<br />
It struck me right from the beginning that the film is more like a piece of music than a film in the traditional sense. </p>
<p>The airport scene in the beginning both gives us all the lines in the film (except for the monologues) and starts to subtly vary them. The &#8220;Creole&#8221; gives his instructions (in Creole) and they are subtitled (in English) and translated (but not quite verbatim). We&#8217;re essentially given the same cryptic  notions three times, but slightly varied. </p>
<p>As the film progresses through repeating the same meeting scenario over and over again, the lines are repeated in different languages, become part of a song, are written on the back of  a truck. They&#8217;re like the theme or chorus line which gather meaning through the solos (monologues on  art, film, drugs, etc.)</p>
<p>Visually, the same thing is happening. The same images are repeated again and again (Lone Traveler in cafes, on stairs, in a car; the espresso cups; the matchboxes; the tai-chi) from sightly different angles, forming a visual beat.</p>
<p>Jarmusch is like a minimalist composer who works with a self-imposed rigorous set of soundbites and visuals to develop his theme (in both musical and philosphical sense) gradually throughout the piece so that what seems random and sparse to begin with makes perfect sense by the time the Lone Traveler (or actually the camera) bows out. </p>
<p>Encore, Mr. Jarmusch!</p>
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		<title>By: EB</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 May 2009 02:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lady karina-  thanks for helping me make sense of this film. It's
a lot to take in and digest... but I am starting to get it now!
 
Great review :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lady karina-  thanks for helping me make sense of this film. It&#8217;s<br />
a lot to take in and digest&#8230; but I am starting to get it now!</p>
<p>Great review <img src='http://blog.spout.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Cine Con Chile &#187; Trailer de *The Limits Of Control* de Jarmusch &#124; &#8220;Que miseria, che. Que miseria&#8221; Esperando la Carroza</title>
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		<description>[...] Y acerca de pajas mentales que a nadie le interesan, según algunos críticos. Porque sí, la crítica ha estado bastante dividida en el nuevo trabajo de JJ, el que se estrena mañana en Obama´s Land y [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Y acerca de pajas mentales que a nadie le interesan, según algunos críticos. Porque sí, la crítica ha estado bastante dividida en el nuevo trabajo de JJ, el que se estrena mañana en Obama´s Land y [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Filmbrain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Filmbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 14:10:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice review Karina. I've given up trying to write about it -- just can't find the words.

Though I fully understand why the film is so divisive, it's interesting that the negative reviews barely address the film, or show a willingness to engage it AT ALL. What I've been reading is a lot of "oh this movie sucks and makes me sick" or "only a hipster could like this film" hyperbole. 

Yes, it's an easy film to dismiss with a flippant cry of "vacuous!" but who does that benefit? Morgenstern's 19 word ejaculation should rather read "I'm honestly far too lazy to think about this film, but check out my Wolverine review!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice review Karina. I&#8217;ve given up trying to write about it &#8212; just can&#8217;t find the words.</p>
<p>Though I fully understand why the film is so divisive, it&#8217;s interesting that the negative reviews barely address the film, or show a willingness to engage it AT ALL. What I&#8217;ve been reading is a lot of &#8220;oh this movie sucks and makes me sick&#8221; or &#8220;only a hipster could like this film&#8221; hyperbole. </p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s an easy film to dismiss with a flippant cry of &#8220;vacuous!&#8221; but who does that benefit? Morgenstern&#8217;s 19 word ejaculation should rather read &#8220;I&#8217;m honestly far too lazy to think about this film, but check out my Wolverine review!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony N.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony N.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 18:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating review Karina!  This is the first review of the film that doesn’t cry “pretentious” or “the emperor has no clothes.”  Nice to see someone actually observe what’s going on in the film rather then constantly rolling their eyes for 2 hours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating review Karina!  This is the first review of the film that doesn’t cry “pretentious” or “the emperor has no clothes.”  Nice to see someone actually observe what’s going on in the film rather then constantly rolling their eyes for 2 hours.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik McClanahan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik McClanahan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 21:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review Karina. Been looking forwrd to this ever since the enigmatic (but brilliant) trailer came out, even though I'm not the biggest Jarmusch fan myself. 

You're review has only served to intensify my anticipation for Limits of Control, so good on you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review Karina. Been looking forwrd to this ever since the enigmatic (but brilliant) trailer came out, even though I&#8217;m not the biggest Jarmusch fan myself. </p>
<p>You&#8217;re review has only served to intensify my anticipation for Limits of Control, so good on you.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn Kenny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn Kenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Mike, don't knock "Free To Be...You And Me." No less a personage as Robert Christgau gave the soundtrack an A-.

And "Limits" roolz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Mike, don&#8217;t knock &#8220;Free To Be&#8230;You And Me.&#8221; No less a personage as Robert Christgau gave the soundtrack an A-.</p>
<p>And &#8220;Limits&#8221; roolz.</p>
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		<title>By: md'a</title>
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		<dc:creator>md'a</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The story’s perceived mystery is a MacGuffin to pave the way for a rumination on creative idealism as a code that crosses transnational lines, bridging gaps of language and ethnic difference to unite dreamers/travelers (signified here as one and the same) in a common fight against those who seek to destroy their philosophy in the name of global capitalist homogeneity."

You say that like it's a good thing. The reason this film is divisive isn't because some of us can't roll with the above; it's because some of us find the above to be the downtown-cool equivalent of Free to Be...You and Me. (Look it up.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The story’s perceived mystery is a MacGuffin to pave the way for a rumination on creative idealism as a code that crosses transnational lines, bridging gaps of language and ethnic difference to unite dreamers/travelers (signified here as one and the same) in a common fight against those who seek to destroy their philosophy in the name of global capitalist homogeneity.&#8221;</p>
<p>You say that like it&#8217;s a good thing. The reason this film is divisive isn&#8217;t because some of us can&#8217;t roll with the above; it&#8217;s because some of us find the above to be the downtown-cool equivalent of Free to Be&#8230;You and Me. (Look it up.)</p>
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		<title>By: JB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 22:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karina,

Excellent review. It sounds as if Jarmusch  might be contemplating giving up narative altogether. Creatively, where else can he go?

JB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karina,</p>
<p>Excellent review. It sounds as if Jarmusch  might be contemplating giving up narative altogether. Creatively, where else can he go?</p>
<p>JB</p>
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